• null@piefed.nullspace.lol
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    i don’t care about Hassan, it’s not about him, he is just yet another example of the larger effort the democratic party expends to fight against the progressive base from getting control.

    And yet you say that pushing back against him trying to inject himself into the part takes significant effort from the party that could be devoted to other things.

    If we agree that Hasan is a bad example of a person they’d want in the coalition, then who are these other “progressive” figures they are spending so much effort fighting against?

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      It’s not about finding a ‘perfect’ individual; it’s about the documented institutional effort to crush the progressive wing regardless of the candidate.

      If you want examples of who the party fights, look at the 2024 and 2026 primary cycles. The establishment (via groups like AIPAC and the Democratic Majority for Israel) spent over $100 million,the most in U.S. history, specifically to unseat progressives like Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush. In the 2026 special election in New Jersey, they even turned on a former moderate like Tom Malinowski the second he suggested conditioning aid to Israel.

      This isn’t about Hasan, it’s about the fact that the DNC recently voted down a resolution to limit the influence of dark money and corporate PACs in Democratic primaries. They are effectively keeping the door open for Republican billionaire mega-donors (like Miriam Adelson) to fund ‘Democratic’ primary campaigns against progressives.

      When the party leadership chooses to protect that dark money pipeline instead of their own base, they aren’t dropping the ball, they are protecting their donors.

      My point stands: the establishment perceives a loss to a Republican as a manageable setback, but they perceive a progressive takeover of the party as an existential threat. The spending records prove it.

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        3 hours ago

        under attack by his closest aligning party, because he is threatening right wing democrats position, and gamesmanship of the vote

        So then we agree that this comment was either nonsense or bait.

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          NO,

          he is facing attacks from the democrat party, because he represents a progressive shift. and the democrats are doing so because they see progressive movement as a larger threat then the republican party.

          this is consistent to my whole argument, and why i said that.

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              Abdul El-Sayed campaigned with Hasan at Michigan State and the University of Michigan. the Haley Stevens and Senator Elissa Slotkin came out and condemned it and announced they are shunning Hasan and anyone who reaches out to him.

              Senator Mallory McMorrow directly compared him as the Nick Fuentes of the left. a direct comparison to a white supremisist neo nazi.

              Rep. Brad Schneider has outright and publicly labeled him an anti-semite

              Jonathan Cowan wrote a Wall Street Journal op-ed titled “Draw a Line in the Sand,” stating: “No Democrat should engage with him. All should seek to push him to the fringe, where he belongs.”

              he was kicked out of the 2024 DNC because he criticized the democratic party complicity in the genocide in gaza.

              if you don’t consider these attacks on his voice and his character, then by that logic the establishment never attacked trump either.

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                I consider them attacks against his character, of course. And I outlined exactly why they are attacking his character.

                I asked you for examples of them attacking him based on his “progressive views”.

                That’s your claim.

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                  You justify attacks on his character and ignore why he is targeted to avoid admitting that the party is hostile to the left. You asked for examples of them attacking him for his views, and I gave you a list of high-ranking Democrats who used astroturfed labels like ml, neo-Nazi and antisemite, the exact moment he started campaigning for an arms embargo in Michigan.

                  That isn’t a character critique it’s a political hit job designed to make his progressive views radioactive. If they didn’t care about his views, they wouldn’t have kicked him out of the 2024 DNC for his stance on Gaza, and the DNC wouldn’t have just voted in New Orleans to protect the dark money PACs that fund these character assassinations. You’re not arguing in good faith, you’re justifying a purge by pretending it’s a personality conflict.

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                    You justify attacks on his character and ignore why he is targeted

                    I have explained exactly why he’s targetted several times now.