• bearboiblake@pawb.socialOP
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    5 hours ago

    Do you think the capitalistic system is going to just pay people fairly out of the goodness of the hearts of the ruling class?

    How can people be paid the value of their labor while still generating profit? Profit is, by definition, the extraction of surplus labor value. Under capitalism, inherently and definitionally, no member of the working class is ever paid fairly.

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      4 hours ago

      No, never even implied that. But in any system we need something that can be exchanged for labor in carrying quantities so we can give more to the people who do the shittiest jobs. Whatever system you come up with, it’s not going to work without money.

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        4 hours ago

        If a medium of exchange for labor is indeed necessary, I’d say it should be measured in labor hours. We live finite lives, measured in minutes. A minute of your life is worth as much as a minute of mine, wouldn’t you say?

        I would have no inherent problem with a system that tokenizes labor hours in some way. The problem is private ownership of the means of production and profit itself.