• Serinus@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Would you enjoy being a garbage man or a plumber? Or is that work you’re saving for others to enjoy?

    Doctors make good money and we don’t have enough of them because it takes so much time and dedication. You think getting rid of money would help there?

    Do kids need to go to school? Five days a week?

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      5 hours ago

      It’s not that gotcha that you think it is. I worked a lot of hard jobs, for 10 years I did very hard and complicated work in very unpleasant environments for very very little money only because I loved what we did and the results of our labour, and I was good at it. I would be doing that still if I didn’t need money to feed my family. In my years I’ve met a lot of people who were enjoying, properly enjoying jobs that other people will call hell. My job at the time, and to a big extend my job now, is something other people will never want to do for any amount of money.

      Doctors make good money and we don’t have enough of them

      And your conclusion isn’t that the system of people working for money and only for money is a broken system that demonstrably doesn’t work, but that we need to conserve it as long as we can because it was always done like that?
      Yes, getting rid of money will absolutely help. Many people want to be doctors but can’t afford the time or resources to either become one, or to actually put their existing education to use.
      And as an example I’ve personally witnessed, being a doctor in Russia in the 90s was about the worst job you can get, you don’t get any money, and I mean none, they were going multiple consecutive months without any salary. The shortage was about on par with the doctor’s shortage in US right now. Trapping people in jobs they don’t want to do is not something that helps humanity in any way.

      Do kids need to go to school? Five days a week?

      I struggle to understand how this is relevant to the conversation.

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      7 hours ago

      Doctors make good money and we don’t have enough of them because it takes so much time and dedication. You think getting rid of money would help there?

      Yes. There are easier ways of making money. If you do it just for the money you won’t have the mental fortitude to get to the point of making money. Profit motives is about the path of least resistance.

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        4 hours ago

        Lol what MD is the goto job for making easy money. Getting the degree is difficult because everyone wants to do that job, not because it’s difficult per se

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          3 hours ago

          the degree is difficult because everyone wants to do that job, not because it’s difficult per se

          Pretty much says everything about why your wrong on this. Being a doctor is hard. There are far easier career and business if profit is the motive.

          Beyond that are doctors that rich? They are wealthy, but the Zucc ain’t no MD. Neither is Warren Buffet.

          My point is that someone motivated by money will drop out of the MD path. Being a doctor is a career of passion that also happens to pay well.

          Engineer is similar. Take some differential equations or read Jackson EM. There are easier things to do for money.

          I know someone who make similar to a doctor with a seafood restaurant. Particularly when you consider fewer hours.