been a happy premium subscriber for like 12 years now. I don’t understand why ppl think a service that involves tons of server infrastructure to run should be free… just feels like immature entitlement
I think people have two problems with YouTube. 1 it is Google and therefore monumentally evil. 2 they started the service as free then enshittified it slowly. It’s not like they just added a few ads then left it alone. They have relentlessly added more and more ads to the point it’s disgusting. I think if it was always one way or the other, it would get far less hate. Me personally, I probably need about 30 minutes of YouTube per month. I’m damned sure not paying for that and due to said ads getting worse and worse, I’m using an ad blocker for sure.
I mean, you might be older than me but I doubt it :)
I remember when YouTube was cool, before Google bought it. But at this point that was a relatively short time period. I know they bought it to make money and that’s not even necessarily the worst thing. My main issue with Google regarding YouTube is the slow enshittification of it. I remember when there was either no ad, or a 5-7 second single ad for a whole video. Those days are way gone though.
I switched over to NewPipe a couple weeks back after consciously tolerating ads on the official mobile apps for years. This is what pushed me over the edge:
I was watching a 30 minute video a friend had shared and a (skippable) 4 minute ad played probably a little before the 10 minute mark. It was a variant of an ad I had seen before, but I’ve been interested in the product, so I let the ad play all the way through. But now for the rest of the video, all the ads I was getting were several minutes long and all were unskippable. The interval of actual video content became shorter as well, so I was effectively watching more ads than the content I was trying to view. I decided to finish the video just to experience how ridiculous it was. Immediately installed NewPipe afterwards.
I have a hard time thinking it wasn’t a coincidence that the ads became unskippable partway through the video after watching one ad all the way through. Obviously, I can’t say that for sure. But I sure as hell am not tolerating that ratio of ads to content. I feel guilty for not sending ad view pennies to the creators I enjoy, but this YouTube “experiment” made the platform unusable for me.
Right, all i ask is a cheap ad free service, and Google did just that with YouTube. I will continue to support that business model.
The ones that piss me off are amazon where i pay for the upgraded “ad free” version but there are still ads, and they want to me pay for each “channel”. Amazon can suck my dick.
seconded
been a happy premium subscriber for like 12 years now. I don’t understand why ppl think a service that involves tons of server infrastructure to run should be free… just feels like immature entitlement
I think people have two problems with YouTube. 1 it is Google and therefore monumentally evil. 2 they started the service as free then enshittified it slowly. It’s not like they just added a few ads then left it alone. They have relentlessly added more and more ads to the point it’s disgusting. I think if it was always one way or the other, it would get far less hate. Me personally, I probably need about 30 minutes of YouTube per month. I’m damned sure not paying for that and due to said ads getting worse and worse, I’m using an ad blocker for sure.
Monopolist pricing is made up numbers to extract rent from the public.
If there was competition the price might be fair. Instead you pay whatever the Google exec thinks you will tolerate.
Yep true
Dude had paid for YouTube for 12 years he’s never seen a single ad
I agree that YouTube without premium is unusable.
Better option:
adblock+sponsorblock+donate your subscription fee for a good cause instead
They didn’t start the service, they bought it with the long term plan of making it profitable.
I mean, you might be older than me but I doubt it :)
I remember when YouTube was cool, before Google bought it. But at this point that was a relatively short time period. I know they bought it to make money and that’s not even necessarily the worst thing. My main issue with Google regarding YouTube is the slow enshittification of it. I remember when there was either no ad, or a 5-7 second single ad for a whole video. Those days are way gone though.
I switched over to NewPipe a couple weeks back after consciously tolerating ads on the official mobile apps for years. This is what pushed me over the edge:
I was watching a 30 minute video a friend had shared and a (skippable) 4 minute ad played probably a little before the 10 minute mark. It was a variant of an ad I had seen before, but I’ve been interested in the product, so I let the ad play all the way through. But now for the rest of the video, all the ads I was getting were several minutes long and all were unskippable. The interval of actual video content became shorter as well, so I was effectively watching more ads than the content I was trying to view. I decided to finish the video just to experience how ridiculous it was. Immediately installed NewPipe afterwards.
I have a hard time thinking it wasn’t a coincidence that the ads became unskippable partway through the video after watching one ad all the way through. Obviously, I can’t say that for sure. But I sure as hell am not tolerating that ratio of ads to content. I feel guilty for not sending ad view pennies to the creators I enjoy, but this YouTube “experiment” made the platform unusable for me.
Right, all i ask is a cheap ad free service, and Google did just that with YouTube. I will continue to support that business model.
The ones that piss me off are amazon where i pay for the upgraded “ad free” version but there are still ads, and they want to me pay for each “channel”. Amazon can suck my dick.