we have something we haven’t been able to prove exists in any other animal: knowledge that we, ourselves, might die. animal cognitive behaviorists call this understanding personal mortality, and every time they get close to it, I’ve seen them go out of their way to say they don’t have proof any other animal understands personal mortality.
if you have an animal cognitive behavioral study that claims otherwise, I’d be happy to read it.
An animal doesn’t need to understand dying in order to dislike it. You can just repeatedly stab a dog until it dies, and it will voice its displeasure. I’ve never done that, but I understand the science is quite firm on the matter.
Fortunately, I already moved the goalposts beyond the need for understanding. I said they don’t like dying, I didn’t say squat about understanding dying.
if you want to just live in your feelings about this instead of relying on the science, I can’t stop you. but anyone else who reads this should understand that what you claimed simply isn’t scientific fact.
The results demonstrate clearly, for the first time, that the act of slaughter by ventral-neck incision is associated with noxious stimulation that would be expected to be painful in the period between the incision and subsequent loss of consciousness.
we have something we haven’t been able to prove exists in any other animal: knowledge that we, ourselves, might die. animal cognitive behaviorists call this understanding personal mortality, and every time they get close to it, I’ve seen them go out of their way to say they don’t have proof any other animal understands personal mortality.
if you have an animal cognitive behavioral study that claims otherwise, I’d be happy to read it.
An animal doesn’t need to understand dying in order to dislike it. You can just repeatedly stab a dog until it dies, and it will voice its displeasure. I’ve never done that, but I understand the science is quite firm on the matter.
this isn’t proof of understanding personal mortality
Fortunately, I already moved the goalposts beyond the need for understanding. I said they don’t like dying, I didn’t say squat about understanding dying.
if you want to just live in your feelings about this instead of relying on the science, I can’t stop you. but anyone else who reads this should understand that what you claimed simply isn’t scientific fact.
So anyway, here’s the science on pain at slaughter
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/animal-welfare/article/pain-perception-at-slaughter/463284EC5DCD5A60CE674AC004B7E227