It is extremely heavily moderated in favor of communism, so it is a very big echo chamber. Everything seems very calm and respectable as long as you don’t dig too deep, because any dissenting opinions quickly get removed. So there isn’t a whole lot of argument that happens among .ml users. But checking the mod logs tells a very different story.
Also, it’s the only instance that the lead Lemmy dev uses, so anyone who wants to stay up to date on lemmy’s development is forced to federate with .ml. There have also been some controversies about the dev putting dev donations towards running the instance, which ruffled a lot of feathers from people who want to support the dev but not the instance.
A communist and an anarchist walk into a bar. The anarchist proceeds to get shithoused, then fights a bonehead. The commie discusses political philosophy and theory with their friends while this goes down, then criticizes the anarchist for “performative gestures” instead of strategizing for long term effective action. The anarchist has a few more shots, smokes a cigarette, and waits for the next bonehead to arrive. The commies leave after deciding on what their world will look like after the revolution but make no plans on how to kickoff the revolution.
A killing? Whoever owns the shithole dive commies and anarchists hang out in is not making a killing slinging $1.50 PBRs and $3.50 wells. If the commie really has an issue with capitalism they could a) not patronize the bar, or b) actually attempt to seize the means of production from the corporate conglomerate that owns 99% of alcohol manufacturing. The problem is that those people are out of reach, the bar owner lives in town. I would wager that the bar owner is at best a tax bracket above the anarchist and communist, both of whom have jobs themselves despite philosophical issues with capitalism. If we’re going to keep punching within the same class, at least punch the bigots.
It applies to both statements. Ideally they would have posted examples of anarchists who sided with leftist and were killed afterwards, and you would have cited examples of anarchist siding with capitalists and then being betrayed.
Tbf there are probably examples of both scenarios, as anarchist by their own nature aren’t exactly a unified political body.
Because anarchists (of any kind) being betrayed by communists (of any kind) is such a common historical trope, you don’t have to do the work of gathering that information yourself. People have already done it.
I am aware, but in any kind of debate in an open forum you should avoid any position that assumes a preconceived notion. I’m not saying everyone needs to submit a works cited page, but at least giving a brief summary of the events you are using to support your argument helps eliminate any kind of miscommunication.
And then he murders him after the revolution and everyone who visits his funeral.
Yeah anarchists really do be like that, sided with the capitalists and all.
> stupid opinion
> check profile
> .ml
Every time.
What’s wrong with .ml?
It is extremely heavily moderated in favor of communism, so it is a very big echo chamber. Everything seems very calm and respectable as long as you don’t dig too deep, because any dissenting opinions quickly get removed. So there isn’t a whole lot of argument that happens among .ml users. But checking the mod logs tells a very different story.
Also, it’s the only instance that the lead Lemmy dev uses, so anyone who wants to stay up to date on lemmy’s development is forced to federate with .ml. There have also been some controversies about the dev putting dev donations towards running the instance, which ruffled a lot of feathers from people who want to support the dev but not the instance.
Eat any good books recently?
Try refuting what I say instead of turning to personal attacks.
I mean… Play stupid games win stupid prizes and all that…
What can be asserted without evidence can be discarded without evidence.
Which is why mikas comment can be dismissed, and you’re ignoring the personal attack.
So are we not counting the Bolsheviks as “communists” when they murdered their anarchist allies? Because they certainly said they were.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/goldman/works/1922/bolsheviks-shooting-anarchists.html
Dude responded faithfully until this comment, that’s so weird. I suppose life got busy in the utopia.
Heyyyyyyy so it looks like that guy actually responded to you, don’t go now! I just got a fresh batch of popcorn!
Here’s my refute.
A communist and an anarchist walk into a bar. The anarchist proceeds to get shithoused, then fights a bonehead. The commie discusses political philosophy and theory with their friends while this goes down, then criticizes the anarchist for “performative gestures” instead of strategizing for long term effective action. The anarchist has a few more shots, smokes a cigarette, and waits for the next bonehead to arrive. The commies leave after deciding on what their world will look like after the revolution but make no plans on how to kickoff the revolution.
The capitalist bar owner makes a killing over the whole thing, and they all do it again tomorrow
A killing? Whoever owns the shithole dive commies and anarchists hang out in is not making a killing slinging $1.50 PBRs and $3.50 wells. If the commie really has an issue with capitalism they could a) not patronize the bar, or b) actually attempt to seize the means of production from the corporate conglomerate that owns 99% of alcohol manufacturing. The problem is that those people are out of reach, the bar owner lives in town. I would wager that the bar owner is at best a tax bracket above the anarchist and communist, both of whom have jobs themselves despite philosophical issues with capitalism. If we’re going to keep punching within the same class, at least punch the bigots.
Usually when you make a claim it’s up to you to support it with some kind of evidence.
Asking someone to refute something they disagree with is basically asking someone to prove a negative.
Very insightful, I think you were trying to reply to OC
It applies to both statements. Ideally they would have posted examples of anarchists who sided with leftist and were killed afterwards, and you would have cited examples of anarchist siding with capitalists and then being betrayed.
Tbf there are probably examples of both scenarios, as anarchist by their own nature aren’t exactly a unified political body.
Because anarchists (of any kind) being betrayed by communists (of any kind) is such a common historical trope, you don’t have to do the work of gathering that information yourself. People have already done it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/11ecblx/marxists_betray_anarchists/
I am aware, but in any kind of debate in an open forum you should avoid any position that assumes a preconceived notion. I’m not saying everyone needs to submit a works cited page, but at least giving a brief summary of the events you are using to support your argument helps eliminate any kind of miscommunication.
You mean like you did? Oh wait…
Yeah that’s the point bud
The capitalist’s