The minority of Vivaldi is closed source from what I have read actually - specifically the stuff they have that makes its fancy UI work, but someone can correct me with a citation if that is not true.
They state that about 95% of it is available to be read where 92% of that is open source from Chromium, 3% is open source from Vivaldi themselves, and the last 5% that is not available to be read is Vivaldi’s UI.
Still far from open source or free software, but better than most people would think. I guess you would also have to trust them that it really is just the UI.
Exactly. Yes, I know they claim it’s just the UI, and the sole purpose of closed-source code is to make it harder to steal innovative UI elements - but when it comes to something as sensitive as the browser, I’d like for these claims to be verifiable.
Firefox forks are less vulnerable purely due to the fact that the main browser engine isnt being developed by a self interested advertising company. (See the recent manifest V3 and discontinuation of V2 shitshow for a example of googles stranglehold causing problems)
& when it comes to browser engines I’ll set politics aside even if someone has views in very poor taste. The project overall is FOSS and thusly is being developed by hundreds of contributors, I’ve contributed a few bits and pieces for it even.
Having an additional standalone browser engine serves as insurance against Mozilla doing a stupid and a bulwark against Google dominance.
save us vivaldi you’re our only hope
Vivaldi is in big part closed source, so we literally don’t know what it does behind the scenes
closed source due to the small team but they’re also incredibly open about both the company the advocacy for the internet
There are open source projects created and managed by a single developer. A “small team” is not a reason to be closed source.
The minority of Vivaldi is closed source from what I have read actually - specifically the stuff they have that makes its fancy UI work, but someone can correct me with a citation if that is not true.
They state that about 95% of it is available to be read where 92% of that is open source from Chromium, 3% is open source from Vivaldi themselves, and the last 5% that is not available to be read is Vivaldi’s UI.
https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser-open-source/
Still far from open source or free software, but better than most people would think. I guess you would also have to trust them that it really is just the UI.
Exactly. Yes, I know they claim it’s just the UI, and the sole purpose of closed-source code is to make it harder to steal innovative UI elements - but when it comes to something as sensitive as the browser, I’d like for these claims to be verifiable.
Nah, Firefox. Anything based on the blink engine is vulnerable to upstream fuckiness.
Ladybird is also getting there.
so aren’t firefox forks
and ladybird might be nice but the dev outed himself as a right wing bigot
Firefox forks are less vulnerable purely due to the fact that the main browser engine isnt being developed by a self interested advertising company. (See the recent manifest V3 and discontinuation of V2 shitshow for a example of googles stranglehold causing problems)
& when it comes to browser engines I’ll set politics aside even if someone has views in very poor taste. The project overall is FOSS and thusly is being developed by hundreds of contributors, I’ve contributed a few bits and pieces for it even.
Having an additional standalone browser engine serves as insurance against Mozilla doing a stupid and a bulwark against Google dominance.
Servo browser is the other big from the ground browser project. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_(software)