Minecraft is easy to pirate…but why? Well to answer you: there is 0 effort to pirate it, download the client.jar from mojang official APIs (which is totally FREE) and run the jar without using any valid session ID, done! What…that’s too easy, were is the catch? Well you can’t have a skin, you can’t play minecraft servers that don’t allow un-authenticated users and anyone can use the same user without any password
Is that really piracy? I mean i am using a free thing, not messing with microslop shit and servers - yes i did read mojang eula and no- it’s not against it.
So i wonder: can we not call it piracy? Dunno…i leave the words to y’all!

Edit: i don’t think it’s piracy because when you buy minecraft they give you an account to login in their auth servers, but you don’t even need to use the auth servers to access the game, just to use realms, access servers that don’t allow non authenticated users etc etc

  • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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    19 hours ago

    Microslop, a corporation i never did any business with, stole my copy of Minecraft that I purchased years ago. They deserve to lose everything.

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    FWIW more than a decade ago someone post “Complete list of Minecraft clones!” on r/Minecraft and they were then more than 3 dozens, at least. Also a 2s DuckDuckGo search yields https://github.com/OpenCraft-Studios/OpenCraft namely an open source alternative

    So… regardless of one’s opinion on it being piracy or not I’m wondering WHY even do so. WHY even “pirate” (or not) something that is basically a 1st year developer student weekend program. It’s really not that complex. It can be really fun though! But… why support a dude who, already rich, sold his independent studio to a gigantic closed source for-profit corporation who now sells studio? Why not have a functional equivalent and NOT promote that thing?

    Anyway, IMHO yes it is privacy, that doesn’t meant it’s immoral though. It can also be moral to pirate… and yet less moral than supporting free and open alternatives that do exist.

    My 2 cents

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      The problem of those clones is that none of them is close to minecraft in feeling or gameplay, also, that was a decade ago, the game evolved a lot.

      Anyway, someone is working on a open source minecraft server replacement (written in rust!) https://pumpkinmc.org/

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    There are plenty of games for sale that don’t include drm or are otherwise easy to obtain. It’s still piracy to download them without paying.

    I’ll never understand these posts where someone is bending over backwards to try to ‘prove’ that pirating a game isn’t piracy by some sovereign citizen-esque logic. Just download the game and move on.

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      Yeah but in this case seems that what you pay are actually the authentication servers, you can straight up download minecraft from their API for free and then when you need to make the game launch you can skip using the auth server and just insert random bullshit in the username and session ID section, nothing stop you so it look like an intended feature.
      Also, i don’t really care about it being called piracy, i do it as much as i can and anyway i have an account for the game soo

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        No, you are paying for the game. That they don’t take any serious measures to try to stop you from pirating it doesn’t make it not piracy.

        What is the message you are trying to send? That companies should add restrictive DRM, otherwise it’s deemed “intended” to be pirated? Maybe they just respect their customers and don’t want to add any friction to people who paid for the game, at the cost of making piracy easy?

        Microsoft sucks, go pirate Minecraft any day. But it’s ridiculous to claim it’s not piracy.

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        If you don’t care, then why are you trying so hard to convince yourself and others that this isn’t piracy?

        Again, the ease of obtaining the game without a license has nothing to do with the legality of doing so. Piracy is the act of bypassing licensing restrictions in software, which is exactly what you are doing.

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    Depends on how you define piracy. Using code you found on GitHub for example where the author forgot to put up a license, is technically a copyright violation. Even if Microsoft doesn’t put any restrictions on downloading the jar file, unless you have a license which you get by purchasing it, you are technically pirating. If your definition of piracy is using a piece of software without a license that is.

    It doesn’t matter from where or how you obtained the software, it’s about whether you are actually allowed to use it. Linux ISOs are often distributed via torrents, nobody claims that this is piracy because you are not downloading the software directly from the developer.

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      Maybe i should specify in the post too: i don’t think it’s piracy because when you buy minecraft they give you an account to login in their auth servers, but you don’t even need to use the auth servers to access the game, just to use realms, access servers that don’t allow non authenticated users etc etc

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    It’s as piracy as using windows without a key. Thats against TOS. Which is not important if you are not a company that can be sued.

    Also it’s the first free hit at the dealer. They hope you come back and pay

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      I played pirated versions for years until I got someone to buy me a gift card (from the grocery store!) from the US. Even if I wanted to pay digitally, that wasn’t an option at the time where I am. This was pre-acquisition I think. Having a proper account made things like playing the modded game much easier to manage. I still play it over a decade later so I can’t complain about buyer’s remorse. And I don’t even play multiplayer.

      The first hit being free is not a bad business model at all. I don’t know how intentional it is though. Especially nowadays where every company is somehow even more viciously hellbent on squeezing anything they can.

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      Can you find me in the EULA and TOS where they say that you can’t? Already searched and maybe i missed that

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    All IP laws are fundamentally “honor system”. The idea of digital locks is a pipe dream, only possible as long as legal threats scare people away from looking too closely at how the lock works.

    But every digital lock can be broken, because we only know how to make one type of computer: the turing-complete universal von neumann machine. It can run any program, as long as it’s presented the right way.

    So yes, it’s piracy. Just like how the crime of “breaking and entering” means “breaking the seal” and entering without permission (not necessarily breaking a physical lock), piracy just means unauthorized use of IP-law-protected content (not necessarily breaking a digital lock).

    Breaking a digital lock is an additional crime on top of piracy, under the DMCA. 5 years and 50k fine for a first offense, I believe.

    Now as to whether we should even have a concept of “piracy” to begin with… that’s a reasonable question.

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      i don’t think it’s piracy because when you buy minecraft they give you an account to login in their auth servers, but you don’t even need to use the auth servers to access the game, just to use realms, access servers that don’t allow non authenticated users etc etc, so you aren’t even breaking any ““lock””