• ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    19 hours ago

    all of the cycle breaks in the bits of history i know of required violence at some point.

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      18 hours ago

      Have there been cycle breaks? I’m not trying to be combative but I am curious to know what examples you have in mind. I don’t think human history has ever seen a break in the cycle of violence as I would define it. The active bloodshed has waxed and waned over the centuries, or at least moved from place to place, but violent oppression has been alive and malignant in every chapter of human history that I can think of.

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        13 hours ago

        that’s sort of my point.

        dissolve the divine rights of kings? blood.

        estabilishing representative democracy? blood.

        getting ourselves the right to rest 2x a week? blood.

        and over time our lives end up a little more comfortable if we do things right doesn’t it?

        look, i’m wimpy and weak. i absolutely don’t want physical violence and i’d be the first to die, but we don’t defend ourselves from theirs with flowers and arguments.

        we can’t salaried work our way out of the mess that is drawing up for us in the horizon, that’s just not how this works.