• CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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    5 hours ago

    Dunno, here in Germany, the cities’ outskirts are usually kinda well connected, too. And even in the suburban village I grew up in, it took you at max ten minutes by bike to get to the train station. Nowadays with e-scooters you don’t even have to use your muscles for that part either.

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      I haven’t been to Germany but based on what I know of it (and other European countries), your suburbs are a very different beast from ours. We have a level of urban sprawl in North America that most Europeans would have to see to believe. Its simply designed to move and park as many cars as possible, with human comfort as an afterthought.

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        2 hours ago

        Yes, I know that. However, that is not really about my point. I doubt that “door-to-door” comfortability is a main selling point for cars because I personally know some and have heart from even more people who put more effort in driving and parking cars than it would take to go the same ways by (e-)bike, scooter or public transport. That may result in searching a longer time for parking spots that it would to get to the next station, walking further to or from a parked car than to a station, spending more time in traffic jams than it would to travel by other means of transportation, defrosting windows and removing snow during winter, paying huge amounts for parking spots etc pp.
        That does not mean that there are no people for whom “door-to-door” is a factor or that all people live well connected to public transport or bikeway infrastructure (especially outside of european cities), it just means that there are too many people putting in efforts to go by car that would be unnecessary if they chose another method to go from A to B for me to accept that “door-to-door” is a main factor when deciding the means of transportaition.
        Or in other words: I think many people would still choose a car if they had a bus stop in front of their home and the bus line had a stop in front of their workplace.

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          I suppose there are so few walkable places in my country that most of the people who live in them are there on purpose and thus won’t engage in this strange behavior.

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            Well, from my experience as a european big city dweller, that is not a behavior exclusive to areas with low walkability. Which is what lead me to my point.