Sorry I couldn’t parse that first sentence could you rephrase?
Also, I actually have been on Weibo but it really seemed too like… pop culture obsessed? Not my thing, plus my Mandarin sucked even back then when I was still actively learning it
I have also seen c/manufacturingconsent.
Anyway, I’m guessing you brought up Weibo as a “people can talk bad about the government there so clearly they don’t censor anti China speech” but that’s really not an argument.
China is pretty open about its regulation of the media. I mean you’ve likely read the terms and conditions for some of their media platforms so you already know it’s against their policies to promote ideas contrary to the vision/interests of the CCP or create dissent or however they phrase it. I’m sure small comments slip through here and there because their impact is small and censorship takes effort, but major posts against the government are not staying up very long. (If you can find long standing / popular dissenting post on Weibo to prove me wrong I’ll change my mind on this)
As for bringing up manufacturing consent and “what the west is trying to do” guess what buddy, if lots of people/organizations are doing a fucked up thing, it’s still a fucked up thing.
To be fair, I think trying to ensure your citizens hear good news is actually a pretty good idea, but I’m not a big fan of censoring news in order to make that happen.
Want to make the good news I see outnumber the bad 10:1? Fine, but leave the bad news in there. And I definitely don’t think organizations should censor their failures/problems. Admitting when you’ve made a mistake shows you’re trying to improve; hiding your mistakes makes you seem much less trustworthy in general.
Sorry I couldn’t parse that first sentence could you rephrase?
Western hegemony works a lot with creating NGOs, Think-tanks, pushing their Social Media platforms, News agencies, etc. onto other countries to further their interests in these and undermining their sovereignity. If a countries recognize this and kick those out they are instantly labeled authoritarian or limiting their freedom of speech (of course it’s no problem when it’s happening in western countries e.g. RT, TASS with the outbreak of the war). It’s what what my comment referencing manufacturing consent was hinting at
against their policies to promote ideas contrary to the vision/interests of the CCP or create dissent or however they phrase
The CPC is very popular and has 100M members, meaning pretty much everyone in their family has a member there. Long Term studies show that the Chinese are pretty much satified with their government. Allowing for open criticism is opening the gates for the west to undermine their sovereignity (it’s not like the CPC isn’t responding to it e.g. COVID restrictions after minor protests broke out)
Want to make the good news I see outnumber the bad 10:1? Fine, but leave the bad news in there. And I definitely don’t think organizations should censor their failures/problems. Admitting when you’ve made a mistake shows you’re trying to improve; hiding your mistakes makes you seem much less trustworthy in general.
I agree, but you underestimate the soft power the US and the west in general has pushing their narrative and undermining progressive movements worldwide. China, unlike the west, has been subject to imperialism so it’s understandable to have a tighter grip on narrative (I mean the west and generally all nation states do that to some degree)
Sorry I couldn’t parse that first sentence could you rephrase?
Also, I actually have been on Weibo but it really seemed too like… pop culture obsessed? Not my thing, plus my Mandarin sucked even back then when I was still actively learning it
I have also seen c/manufacturingconsent.
Anyway, I’m guessing you brought up Weibo as a “people can talk bad about the government there so clearly they don’t censor anti China speech” but that’s really not an argument.
China is pretty open about its regulation of the media. I mean you’ve likely read the terms and conditions for some of their media platforms so you already know it’s against their policies to promote ideas contrary to the vision/interests of the CCP or create dissent or however they phrase it. I’m sure small comments slip through here and there because their impact is small and censorship takes effort, but major posts against the government are not staying up very long. (If you can find long standing / popular dissenting post on Weibo to prove me wrong I’ll change my mind on this)
As for bringing up manufacturing consent and “what the west is trying to do” guess what buddy, if lots of people/organizations are doing a fucked up thing, it’s still a fucked up thing.
To be fair, I think trying to ensure your citizens hear good news is actually a pretty good idea, but I’m not a big fan of censoring news in order to make that happen.
Want to make the good news I see outnumber the bad 10:1? Fine, but leave the bad news in there. And I definitely don’t think organizations should censor their failures/problems. Admitting when you’ve made a mistake shows you’re trying to improve; hiding your mistakes makes you seem much less trustworthy in general.
Western hegemony works a lot with creating NGOs, Think-tanks, pushing their Social Media platforms, News agencies, etc. onto other countries to further their interests in these and undermining their sovereignity. If a countries recognize this and kick those out they are instantly labeled authoritarian or limiting their freedom of speech (of course it’s no problem when it’s happening in western countries e.g. RT, TASS with the outbreak of the war). It’s what what my comment referencing manufacturing consent was hinting at
The CPC is very popular and has 100M members, meaning pretty much everyone in their family has a member there. Long Term studies show that the Chinese are pretty much satified with their government. Allowing for open criticism is opening the gates for the west to undermine their sovereignity (it’s not like the CPC isn’t responding to it e.g. COVID restrictions after minor protests broke out)
I agree, but you underestimate the soft power the US and the west in general has pushing their narrative and undermining progressive movements worldwide. China, unlike the west, has been subject to imperialism so it’s understandable to have a tighter grip on narrative (I mean the west and generally all nation states do that to some degree)