• Twongo [she/her]@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    the fact that real estate is dirt cheap and therefore it’s not a feasible way to become a leech (landlord) and live off rent because it’ll not pay off

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      That’s not backing it up, that’s saying “nu uh” in an echo chamber.

      Do better. Cause I actually want proof. Like, please, give me proof it’s better.

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        You are sealioning right now. You’re asking someone else to do a shit ton of work under the guise of “just asking questions” pretending to have healthy discourse.

        A lot of this sites people suck and its filled with people justifying absurd things, but right here, you are asking a question so open ended its tantamount to asking for a thesis paper, and those would still be scrutinized.

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        Uh if the 90% overall homeownership rate isn’t “backing it up” I want to know how you define “better”

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            22 hours ago

            Why? Do you have evidence that suggests otherwise? Is there a particular reason you’re so adamant that China’s system must be worse than the commodified system we have in the west?

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              21 hours ago

              I’m not being adamant and I don’t hold that opinion. That’s why I’m asking for sources.

              Until told otherwise, I hold that it’s just as bad as every other system. None are good, just different.

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                21 hours ago

                You realize you can type “china homeownership rate” into any search engine and find a wealth of information? Even from outlets that are generally deeply biased against China. It’s a pretty strong consensus.

                Waiting for information to come to you is only going to expose you to narratives that someone has a vested interest in putting in front of you. Someone that’s trained and paid to pander to you is going to do it a lot better than a regular well-meaning person that belongs to your class and shares your material interests.

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                  I don’t do the work to back up somebody else’s opinion. And clearly other narratives have been put in front of me - look at this thread. None of it is backed up with anything but words except by me. Like, I literally sourced the Chinese government for stuff, but please tell me how me asking for somebody else to put a modicum of work into backing up what they believe is my problem.

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                    I don’t do the work to back up somebody else’s opinion.

                    Yet you expect others to do that here for you.

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                    Why would I “back up” something that is not in dispute? You are more than capable of doing independent verification if you feel doubtful of any of my claims.

                    In fact I would suggest you verify even information you largely agree with, or at least have a reasonable level of confidence that it won’t be totally invalidated by a simple internet search when you repeat it. That’s the standard I and a good number of us here hold ourselves to, which is why folks that don’t do that tend to have quite an adversarial experience when they find themselves in your place.

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                    20 hours ago

                    Bish, you dug up a bunch of sources on this elsewhere in the thread. Very specific claims from the larger topic, Chinese home ownership. The idea that you dont know the figures is laughable based on your other replies.

                    What’s actually happening here is you’re JAQing off and being a cretin. Learn to search for basic facts and go fuck yourself