I know that in my state there are laws against over serving. As in, bartenders can actually be liable if someone is over served and then go out and get a DUI or something. It is, imo, fairly ridiculous.
I have no ideas if the law are the same in every state, but this is incorrect where i am. These laws specifically create liability for a person who serves a drink to a person who is obviously intoxicated. In a bar. It’s obviously puritan-minded bullshit, but the laws do exist, establishments with liquor licenses are required to train employees on them, and people have gotten sued or even prosecuted for them.
These laws specifically create liability for a person who serves a drink to a person who is obviously intoxicated. In a bar.
My point exactly! This is a function of being drunk and how a person acts. It has nothing to do with how much they buy. Come in and drop 100k (hyperbolic number) in “rounds for everybody!” Without drinking anythijg yourself and they’ll never throw you out or cut you off.
I do not agree with this line of thinking at all. If someone gets drunk and drives a car the responsibility for that is not on the bartender for their bad decision, it’s on the driver. The bartender has no idea if, when the person left the bar, they’re heading for their car or an Uber or a bus. Furthermore, the purpose of bars is for people to get drunk. These sorts of laws are absolutely based in “ok we’re going to allow you to sell alcohol but also drinking is BAD and WRONG so we are going to punish you if you, a person who is hired to sell drinks, allows a person to get drunk.” Fuck that puritanical bullshit.
To assign blame, you ask the question “Who could have prevented this?” If a bartender knows that a person has had too much to drink and that they are going to drive, they are aware of the danger that person poses and are therefore required to prevent that danger.
I know that in my state there are laws against over serving. As in, bartenders can actually be liable if someone is over served and then go out and get a DUI or something. It is, imo, fairly ridiculous.
“Over serving” laws let’s them cut you off for being too drunk, not for buying too much.
I have no ideas if the law are the same in every state, but this is incorrect where i am. These laws specifically create liability for a person who serves a drink to a person who is obviously intoxicated. In a bar. It’s obviously puritan-minded bullshit, but the laws do exist, establishments with liquor licenses are required to train employees on them, and people have gotten sued or even prosecuted for them.
My point exactly! This is a function of being drunk and how a person acts. It has nothing to do with how much they buy. Come in and drop 100k (hyperbolic number) in “rounds for everybody!” Without drinking anythijg yourself and they’ll never throw you out or cut you off.
I do not agree with this line of thinking at all. If someone gets drunk and drives a car the responsibility for that is not on the bartender for their bad decision, it’s on the driver. The bartender has no idea if, when the person left the bar, they’re heading for their car or an Uber or a bus. Furthermore, the purpose of bars is for people to get drunk. These sorts of laws are absolutely based in “ok we’re going to allow you to sell alcohol but also drinking is BAD and WRONG so we are going to punish you if you, a person who is hired to sell drinks, allows a person to get drunk.” Fuck that puritanical bullshit.
Yes these laws are absolutely absurd
To assign blame, you ask the question “Who could have prevented this?” If a bartender knows that a person has had too much to drink and that they are going to drive, they are aware of the danger that person poses and are therefore required to prevent that danger.