You have hundreds of thousands of immigrants not getting jobs because they dont learn the language and they are content with getting money from the tax paying population. They dont want to have a shitty job, and rather live on wellfare, which makes perfect sense from their point of view. I would do the same.
Yeah see, I don’t agree on this. I grew up in poverty here in Sweden. For reference, I was born in Stockholm in the 90s, lived in Södermalm for quite a while. Not exactly an easy place to live on subsistence minimum, but things have changed for the worse since then - I don’t blame migration for this either. Our housing problem isn’t a problem of scarcity, it’s a problem of greed.
I grew up with a single parent, with a very rocky employment record. Living on welfare is complete ass, and sometimes you won’t get it even if it’s entirely necessary. I know a bloke who lived out in the middle of nowhere. Rent was cheap, but he had no public transit access. Ended up on hard times, and struggled finding a job. He owned an old Volvo that the social services deemed worth 15k, and so at one point they decided that he should sell his only means of transport to any potential place of employment. Thus his only option was to do that, and move somewhere more expensive putting him in a worse economic situation.
Living on welfare is stressful. It doesn’t matter if it’s from socialen or försäkringskassan. It’s fickle, and it’s demeaning. You’re looked down upon as if you’re a leech in a system that exists to help people in your position. A system we all pay into to help people in that position. Including people who are in that position. You don’t stop paying taxes just because you’re on welfare, that’s coming out of your bottom-line as well.
If you’d rather live on welfare than work a shitty job, do it. You see this sort of argument all the time, but it really isn’t as fun or relaxing as you think it is.
That’s not to say that there aren’t people like this, it just has nothing to do with migration. It’s a case of the bourgeoisie shitting on the working class and pointing at migrants as the problem. Go back far enough in time, before we had a visible migrant minority, and this stupid talking point was still being made.
You are not going to agree with me on this, but at least realize not liking immigration doesnt have to be “i dont like your skin color”. Thats a dumb argument. Its about so much more than that.
Again, you clearly didn’t read what I said, because the continuation of “it’s not even just ‘ew brown people’” was…
because people were like this about the Finns as well.
The implication you’ve missed here is that the Finnish immigrants were white, and xenophobes found ways to be arses about them anyway. Those same xenophobes would todaWe have an opportunity to be open and welcoming to people, y point at Finns as “the good kind” of immigrant, because of a “cultural overlap” or whatever. If you shrunk the world down to just a single village, the xenophobes would bemoan the people on the other side of it.
Sweden has a long tradition of human rights, women rights, and seeing people as equal.
No, we don’t. We dabbled with eugenics on the native population in the 40s. Women got a general right to vote in 1919, which is only about 100 years ago. Married women were myndigförklarade first 1921. Abortion wasn’t made legal until 1975. Gays like me were considered mentally ill until 1979. That wasn’t even 50 years ago. Our most recent overturn of a eugenics law was in 2013, so in a couple of years it’ll be old enough to get a driver’s license.
I’m not praising Islam. I don’t think religious dogma should have a spot in modern society. One of my exes fled to Sweden because of persecution. He was captured by the regime in his home country, and tortured. His back is covered in scars.
The religious extremism and zealotry isn’t a reflection of the culture at large, just how Trump and the insane far-right in the U.S. isn’t a representation of the average populace. It’s corruption. The perspective of the Middle East and Africa as some kind of undeveloped, brutish, uncultured backwaters are based in European imperialism and white supremacy. It’s just not historically true.
Yeah see, I don’t agree on this. I grew up in poverty here in Sweden. For reference, I was born in Stockholm in the 90s, lived in Södermalm for quite a while. Not exactly an easy place to live on subsistence minimum, but things have changed for the worse since then - I don’t blame migration for this either. Our housing problem isn’t a problem of scarcity, it’s a problem of greed.
I grew up with a single parent, with a very rocky employment record. Living on welfare is complete ass, and sometimes you won’t get it even if it’s entirely necessary. I know a bloke who lived out in the middle of nowhere. Rent was cheap, but he had no public transit access. Ended up on hard times, and struggled finding a job. He owned an old Volvo that the social services deemed worth 15k, and so at one point they decided that he should sell his only means of transport to any potential place of employment. Thus his only option was to do that, and move somewhere more expensive putting him in a worse economic situation.
Living on welfare is stressful. It doesn’t matter if it’s from socialen or försäkringskassan. It’s fickle, and it’s demeaning. You’re looked down upon as if you’re a leech in a system that exists to help people in your position. A system we all pay into to help people in that position. Including people who are in that position. You don’t stop paying taxes just because you’re on welfare, that’s coming out of your bottom-line as well.
If you’d rather live on welfare than work a shitty job, do it. You see this sort of argument all the time, but it really isn’t as fun or relaxing as you think it is.
That’s not to say that there aren’t people like this, it just has nothing to do with migration. It’s a case of the bourgeoisie shitting on the working class and pointing at migrants as the problem. Go back far enough in time, before we had a visible migrant minority, and this stupid talking point was still being made.
Again, you clearly didn’t read what I said, because the continuation of “it’s not even just ‘ew brown people’” was…
The implication you’ve missed here is that the Finnish immigrants were white, and xenophobes found ways to be arses about them anyway. Those same xenophobes would todaWe have an opportunity to be open and welcoming to people, y point at Finns as “the good kind” of immigrant, because of a “cultural overlap” or whatever. If you shrunk the world down to just a single village, the xenophobes would bemoan the people on the other side of it.
No, we don’t. We dabbled with eugenics on the native population in the 40s. Women got a general right to vote in 1919, which is only about 100 years ago. Married women were myndigförklarade first 1921. Abortion wasn’t made legal until 1975. Gays like me were considered mentally ill until 1979. That wasn’t even 50 years ago. Our most recent overturn of a eugenics law was in 2013, so in a couple of years it’ll be old enough to get a driver’s license.
I’m not praising Islam. I don’t think religious dogma should have a spot in modern society. One of my exes fled to Sweden because of persecution. He was captured by the regime in his home country, and tortured. His back is covered in scars.
The religious extremism and zealotry isn’t a reflection of the culture at large, just how Trump and the insane far-right in the U.S. isn’t a representation of the average populace. It’s corruption. The perspective of the Middle East and Africa as some kind of undeveloped, brutish, uncultured backwaters are based in European imperialism and white supremacy. It’s just not historically true.