• RamRabbit@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    It was possible to skip Vista and go straight from XP to 7. You could even use the same PC.

    It was possible to skip 8 and go straight from 7 to 10. You could even use the same PC.

    This time around, Microsoft is forcing Windows 11 as the only option, forcing people to throw away their machines, and it is backfiring on them. People are rejecting it and the competition (Linux) has never been as good as it is today.

    The executive also noted that 500 million PCs don’t meet Windows 11’s system requirements

    So much unnecessary e-waste. I never want to hear about how ‘green’ or ‘sustainable’ Microsoft is again.

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      6 hours ago

      Very good point. Especially with how broken pricing has been on home computers for years, throwing away your machine for something impossibly expensive is a tough sell to say the least. Especially in this economy. It‘s more feasible to switch to Linux.

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      11 hours ago

      Apparently some are even opting to reinstall Windows 7 rather than the trash fire that is 11. It seems like 10 was never loved, merely tolerated, and as MS continues to enshittify 10 in an attempt to force people onto 11 some are just going back to the previous good version of Windows.

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        Windows 10 was when the stupid accounts became a thing on Windows and candy crush being installed after a fresh install so makes sense people never really loved 10. And they managed to make 11 even worse than it was at launch with the copilot crap.

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        10 hours ago

        Those people are stupid. Run a version of windows that won’t make you part of a botnet and make you my problem or don’t run it at all.

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          10 hours ago

          If they are taking the time to install windows 7. I’m sure they are at least smart enough to not run random stuff on thier windows machine.

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            9 hours ago

            I don’t care what they’re running. Don’t connect an unsupported OS to the Internet or you’re eventually going to become my problem.

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              They should just run Linux, but if they have to do Windows then 7 is just as good as 10 now, they’re both equally unsupported. Blame Microsoft for fucking up 10 and 11 so bad nobody is willing to run them. If they had at least left 10 alone people would still be using that but they’re too greedy for everyone’s data and they couldn’t leave well enough alone. It’s also not like there aren’t an absolute ton of Windows 10 and 11 installs that are part of bot nets. Running a new version of Windows makes it slightly harder to get rooted, but doing stupid stuff no matter what you’re running is ultimately the problem, not the version of Windows. The age of worms self propagating through service 0-days is largely over, it’s almost all phishing and trojans these days. It would be on things if we were talking Windows 98 or XP, but 7 is fairly solid out of the box.

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              That’s not how it works, especially since everyone doing this is behind a modern router.

              Nothing will happen if you have a Windows 98 computer connected to the internet when the home internet router is on default settings. And modern internet browsers implement security in themselves on systems they still support.

              Firefox still supports Windows 7 via the ESR channel, and every new install gets redirected to on automatically on Windows 7, 8 and 8.1.

              Worry the unsupported systems behind pure internet or providing public internet services, or the users installing the free PDF editor Google advertised as first in search. Those are many more than older Windows enthusiasts.

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      10 hours ago

      Anyone who asks me about this is getting the “At least try Linux for free first before buying a new computer.

      Another example I have is that my mother-in-law is retired. You think she needs a new computer? Nope! She’s getting Linux before a new computer. The only other option for her would be an iPad since she’s just browsing the web anyway.

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      You could install windows 10 on something designed for windows XP, provided it has enough RAM

      The reason w11 needs a new PC is pure marketing, it doesn’t actually need some specific feature that is present on 8th gen Intel CPUs but not on 7th gen Intel CPUs