• MotoAsh@piefed.social
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    DNS isn’t a service (in the same way as AWS and CloudFlare). It’s a fundamental component of the world wide web.

    I mean, unless you’d rather type IP addresses in to your URLs, anyways.

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        Aren’t IPs prone to change though?
        If it does what’s stopping someone from somehow getting that IP and hosting a fraud site?

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          The same thing that stops people from getting access to your domain registration and changing the IP. You have a contract with your provider (ISP or DNS) which says that you own that IP/Hostname.

          Your home IP address changes, but most business or commercial accounts are given a static IP address (or blocks of IP addresses) which never changes.

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              Yeah, I used it until they rolled it into the business accounts (which I upgraded to in order to dodge data caps and have a symmetrical connection, because bittorrent).

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          I think in this case it’d be the user not putting in any sensitive data or downloading executables to run from an internet radio.

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    In case someone misinterpreted the meme: these are all single points of failure that can take down large parts of the internet.

    If a rouge state manages to take down any of these for a more then trivial amount of time, we would suffer enormous amount of financial damage

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      A rouge state? Are you referring to Cambodia China or some hypothetical martian nation?

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        I didn’t mean a specific state, I just wanted to imply that terrorists backed by a state - with the money and connections that encompasses - would have the means to do this.

        I currently don’t see any state that would wish to cripple the internet. That would hurt indiscriminately.

        Perhaps in the future, before a planned attack, to sow chaos. So China or Russia perhaps.

        Perhaps North Korea, but I don’t think they have the power or knowledge to do something like that and China would get mad.

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          Dude they were making a joke about how you put rouge state instead of rogue state. Rouge is a color in the red category sometimes used as a synonym to red.

          Though they missed a joke using the Khmer Rouge (effectively omnicidal communist Cambodia) and went for China instead.

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    Blaming DNS is sort of like blaming phone numbers for calls failing to route. The reason it fails so often is because it’s almost exclusively a human-made lookup table.

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    I’m divesting myself of all three!

    Anyone know any open source alternatives to DNS???

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      I know a thing or two on how it actually works and I found the post funny. I know it doesn’t make sense but it’s still funny.

      Edit: to clarify (because it seems like you missed this point?), it’s about the recent downtime of AWS and of Cloudflare a few days later, each of which caused a huge portion of the internet to be inaccessible. The AWS downtime was caused by a DNS error (as ever), and I’m not sure about Cloudflare but it might be as well.

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        I’m not sure about Cloudflare but it might be as well.

        Cloudflare was a chain of unfortunate events.

        The TLDR is, a permission change caused a poorly written SQL query (without a properly filtering ‘where’ clause) to return a lot more data than normal. That data is used by an automated script to generate configuration files for the proxy services, because of the large return the configuration files were larger than normal (roughly 2x the size).

        The service that uses these configuration files has pre-allocated memory to hold the configuration files and the larger config file exceeded that size. This case, of having a file too large for the memory space, was improperly handled (ironically but not literally ironically, it was written in Rust) resulting in a thread panic which terminated the service and resulted in the 5xx errors.

        So, it’s more similar to the Crowdstrike crash (bad config file and poor error handling in a critical component).