• tb_@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    13 hours ago

    Those companies aren’t exactly releasing consumer-facing distro’s, though.

    • utopiah@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      12 hours ago

      True, but would one want to have a BigTech labels on their Linux distribution? Wouldn’t that kind of miss the point and bring us back to e.g. ChromeBooks?

      • tb_@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        12 hours ago

        Maybe. As it stands Valve is rather open with their implementation, but who’s to say it will remain indefinitely so.

        I do get the desire, though. I’ve gone to Bazzite and Fedora and – even though it’s a lot better than just a year ago – it still requires some commandline tweaking. It isn’t entirely smooth sailing yet.
        Will SteamOS be? I do have some doubts.

        • utopiah@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          12 hours ago

          FWIW been using SteamOS on the SteamDeck for ~3 years now and from gaming to tinkering, no major problems. Never had to tinker hard or re-install. A couple of time it didn’t suspend properly or I had to hold power button of to force a shutdown but that’s about it.

          I doubt Valve would back of from the openness because that’s their one single advantage.

          • tb_@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            9 hours ago

            I doubt Valve would back of from the openness

            Not on the short term, but who knows. If SteamOS becomes a major player in the PC space, at a post-GabeN Valve–

            But that will take many more years, if ever it does happen. I do think it is a legitimate reason to be somewhat cautious.

            • utopiah@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              9 hours ago

              Right, better be safe than sorry. The important point though IMHO that with Proton and now FEX they have shown that compatibility layers are not that costly or complex :

              • try to make it run
              • nothing works
              • note precisely what doesn’t, try a way
              • one thing work and it’s slow as heck
              • understand why
              • 2 things now work, one of them is fast, the other slow
              • rinse&repeat until it’s good enough to crowd source quality control to others

              So… I don’t want to diminish how amazing that is, technically speaking, but we now all know it’s feasible. Initially it looks like supporting an entire OS architecture was ridiculous (and it was, emulation was just “good enough” for games that were some years old and for much more powerful machine) until somebody tried “just” swapping or fixing the right API (i.e. DirectX) and … that was actually OK.

              Again, it’s a TON of work. A lot of it also comes from Wine. But… now we now why it works and how to do that. Even if Valve were to lock SteamOS, that knowledge wouldn’t be lost on the broader community.

              PS: they briefly mention this during the Tested video (sorry YouTube only) on the new hardware.

              • tb_@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                8 hours ago

                I have a reasonable amount of faith in Valve. I think their rising tide lifts Linux as a whole, so that’s good.