I blocked the comm (as I do any that ban me) but this should be the link to it.
It started off in a completely unrelated discussion, where someone recognized my username and accused me of “supporting genocide of Uighurs,” which is false. I don’t think anyone should start genociding them or anyone else, and have never said anything like that. What I have said before is that I don’t believe claims without evidence, even if following proper due diligence in investigating claims regarding genocide cause people to baselessly scream that I “support genocide.”
So a mod responded by doing what libs do, typing it into Google and picking a handful of headlines that sounded like they support their case and posting them without reading. At that point, I simply asked the mod how many times the name Adrian Zenz was mentioned in his links and whether he considered him a reliable source or not. In lieu of responding, he banned me.
The answer was that his name was referenced 18 times. All of the sources I was provided with depended on this one witness’s testimony, and I’ve cross-examined more credible parrots.
Like, I didn’t even come to that thread to discuss it, nor did I comment on whether the claims were true or not. In response to someone who just had it out for me and was accusing me of bullshit, I defended my position saying I don’t believe claims without evidence and haven’t seen credible evidence.
Frankly, I think the mod (Jordunlund, I believe) realized they couldn’t give a rational response so they banned me instead. Tbh, it’s a ban I wear with pride. A perfect demonstration of liberal anti-intellectualism, of how they’re actively hostile to fact-checking and rationality, perhaps 10% less so than chuds are. No one who repeats the claims in question ever actually bothered to trace the sources to see whether they’re backed by anything, and immediately shut down anyone who does.
Don’t need a link. Uighur “genocide” 99% cited is Zenz, founder of Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, a U.S. “communism bad mkay?” think tank. Mostly propagated by BBC, fuelled by the crumbling and sore Brit empire.
Figure he inflated numbers cuz he’s super capitalist? Citations could make sense if he’s the expert, saw he lived in China, but anyway curious your idea of his angle (ideology or money)
Dude’s a feather ruffler!:
Zenz has been the target of a pro-Beijing disinformation campaign, according to U.S.-based cybersecurity firm Mandiant.
As a result of his work on Xinjiang, Zenz has become a target for coordinated disinformation attacks from pro-Beijing and Chinese state-run media as well as other state-affiliated entities.
-Wiki (he wasn’t linked on the foundation page, nor mentioned, he founded or is director or both?)
Point 2: I get ya. Had me confused. Took me a sec.
Was drawing historical parallel. Note word “unpopular” in particular.
Kinda “don’t forget Hitler had supporters”, ya? If I hadn’t clicked that paraphrase woulda left me with opposite impression, would note when paraphrasing pls
Also IDK if credible cuz read one Wiki page (JK read 15% of it)
I got banned there for linking readsettlers.org and posting a video critical of Ukraine. Then for calling out the mod who banned me
because he said “he vets everything before a ban” even though he clearly hadn’t in my case.
I got banned from feddit.org for calling out Genocidesmany’s role in the palestinian genocides
Just yesterday I caught a ban on lefty memes for calling the azov brigade nazis.
Which part? The video that talks about Ukrainian politics that are easily independently corroborated or the military brigade with a Wolfsangel as it’s symbol being nazi? Which one is the disinformation?
I like it there. The people are nice and welcoming and the beaches are phenomenal. The pandemic absolutely rocked the country. I came back after the pandemic and there were rolling blackouts, not enough protein, even more limits on food options.
They had a big revolt and protests against the gov over the way they handled the pandemic (see articles on Wikipedia for more context). I explained this revolt as told to me by my bus driver. That got me banned from Lemmy.ml (in a post asking what’s going on with Cuba).
Even in this thread if you see some of the replies here, there are lunatics claiming everything I said is fake and that I have ulterior motives. I’m shocked lol. I’m just a dude from Canada who went to Cuba a couple times on holiday.
Last time I was there - hot, lacking proteins, rolling blackouts, and the bus follows its own schedule 😆 The convertible taxi drivers are cool and they’ve got these old ass 50s cars with modern stereo systems spliced in. I wish I had brought my bike to ride the coastlines. They’ve got some excellent roads right on the coast.
Do you still maybe have a link to the post somewhere? I’m curious how’s Cuba like, I was wondering if I should maybe go for a trip there or if it’s a bad time.
My post was removed unfortunately but if you see my other comments in this thread I go over it a bit. The last time I was there it was last year so things could have changed.
If you’re going to a resort, expect to have few food options. You won’t go hungry but depending on all sorts of factors, you might only get eggs at the breakfast buffet once a week. It’s expected to tip the staff with a few USD. You can go into Havana or Varadero and go sightseeing and explore. Havana is better for this. Varadero is pretty touristy but still very nice. The restaurants in the city have much better food (I even had fried chicken!) but don’t drink anything with ice. The water isn’t filtered and you’ll probably get mild runs for a day. Wasn’t even that bad but was not a super comfortable day haha.
If you’re looking for a very cheap sunny beach vacation spot and don’t mind the limited food options, it’s great. Expect to only see Russian and Quebec tourists. You may stumble upon the odd Australian or British person but it’s like 60% French Canadians that go there, 30% Russians, and 10% other countries.
You’ll find no Americans there (since it’s illegal for them).
I got banned for reporting a Gaza Genocide denier. I was told that Gaza genocide denial is exempt from the normal rules and thus by reporting it I was being uncivil.
I also got a ban for “misinformation” for saying Kamala Harris supported Israel.
Lemmy.world communities will ban for pushing back against the western narrative, and pointing out their struggles are due to illegal sanctions, and not any failures of communism. Lemmy.ml communities won’t tolerate the willful ignorance.
I mean if the experience is same as the propaganda says then someone might think at least that part of the proparanda might be true. It doesn’t have to be all lies, best proparanda is one where you don’t have to lie
The only parts of US propaganda about Cuba that are even partially true are also the direct result of the US interfering with Cuba’s ability to trade with other countries freely
You have physically been to a website? And you call me delusional? I was talking about lemmy.world, but we could always talk about Cuba as I’ve been there too.
Edit: I don’t think I will actually bother with this. May your understanding of the world surpass your understanding of context. Good bye.
When I bought cigars factory made, smuggled out and sold in shacks in Havanna I doubt it was part of the staged tour - Considering the staged tour was in the factory itself and we were told it was strickly forbidden to buy cigars straight from the factory workers. So we became friendly with them instead and met up after they finished their shift and went to their home shack where we had dinner together, dealt Cohibas and Romeo y Julieta and talked about how life in Cuba was.
But why ask? Have I even said anything about Cuba in this thread beyond that I’ve been there too? Perhaps you’re just an idiot?
The meme isn’t about lemmy.world. World has a shit ton of issues, including shitty admin and moderator behaviour, sure, but that’s not relevant to this meme.
As if lemmy.world isn’t a total pile of shit
I’ve never been banned from lemmy.world for describing my own experience when I was in Cuba 🙃
I was banned from [email protected] simply for asking for evidence for claims made about China.
got a link to this? would love to see context
AFAIK, the mod log is public. Click the 3 vertical dots below my comment, click UltraGiGaGigantic’s mod history.
I blocked the comm (as I do any that ban me) but this should be the link to it.
It started off in a completely unrelated discussion, where someone recognized my username and accused me of “supporting genocide of Uighurs,” which is false. I don’t think anyone should start genociding them or anyone else, and have never said anything like that. What I have said before is that I don’t believe claims without evidence, even if following proper due diligence in investigating claims regarding genocide cause people to baselessly scream that I “support genocide.”
So a mod responded by doing what libs do, typing it into Google and picking a handful of headlines that sounded like they support their case and posting them without reading. At that point, I simply asked the mod how many times the name Adrian Zenz was mentioned in his links and whether he considered him a reliable source or not. In lieu of responding, he banned me.
The answer was that his name was referenced 18 times. All of the sources I was provided with depended on this one witness’s testimony, and I’ve cross-examined more credible parrots.
Like, I didn’t even come to that thread to discuss it, nor did I comment on whether the claims were true or not. In response to someone who just had it out for me and was accusing me of bullshit, I defended my position saying I don’t believe claims without evidence and haven’t seen credible evidence.
Frankly, I think the mod (Jordunlund, I believe) realized they couldn’t give a rational response so they banned me instead. Tbh, it’s a ban I wear with pride. A perfect demonstration of liberal anti-intellectualism, of how they’re actively hostile to fact-checking and rationality, perhaps 10% less so than chuds are. No one who repeats the claims in question ever actually bothered to trace the sources to see whether they’re backed by anything, and immediately shut down anyone who does.
Don’t need a link. Uighur “genocide” 99% cited is Zenz, founder of Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, a U.S. “communism bad mkay?” think tank. Mostly propagated by BBC, fuelled by the crumbling and sore Brit empire.
China has plenty of problems. Xin jiang ain’t it.
Figure he inflated numbers cuz he’s super capitalist? Citations could make sense if he’s the expert, saw he lived in China, but anyway curious your idea of his angle (ideology or money)
Dude’s a feather ruffler!:
-Wiki (he wasn’t linked on the foundation page, nor mentioned, he founded or is director or both?)
Adrien Zenz has never set one foot in China and doesn’t speak an iota of the language.
This guy seem credible to you? https://books.google.de/books/about/Worthy_to_Escape.html?id=lRtSQB3HHJcC&redir_esc=y
https://archive.vn/AVs6t
Fundamentalist is he?
Point 2: I get ya. Had me confused. Took me a sec.
Was drawing historical parallel. Note word “unpopular” in particular.
Kinda “don’t forget Hitler had supporters”, ya? If I hadn’t clicked that paraphrase woulda left me with opposite impression, would note when paraphrasing pls
Also IDK if credible cuz read one Wiki page (JK read 15% of it)
He literally claims that Hitler succesfully reduced crime though. As in “he had supporters because his programs had a crime reducing effect.”
Ditto
I got banned there for linking readsettlers.org and posting a video critical of Ukraine. Then for calling out the mod who banned me because he said “he vets everything before a ban” even though he clearly hadn’t in my case.
I got banned from feddit.org for calling out Genocidesmany’s role in the palestinian genocides
Just yesterday I caught a ban on lefty memes for calling the azov brigade nazis.
repeats what russian disinformation campaigns say, doesn’t understand why they’re banned… huh
Just because you don’t like the people saying it doesn’t make it misinformation
From the quote of Noja, switch the word “Russian” with trump, like this:
and you get the identical quote of Amnesigenic…
but from Maga.
Cool story
Damn, if you replace the words “finger licking” with “fascism” then KFC sound like Nazis!
Which part? The video that talks about Ukrainian politics that are easily independently corroborated or the military brigade with a Wolfsangel as it’s symbol being nazi? Which one is the disinformation?
Me neither, but I have never been to Cuba.
/j
I like it there. The people are nice and welcoming and the beaches are phenomenal. The pandemic absolutely rocked the country. I came back after the pandemic and there were rolling blackouts, not enough protein, even more limits on food options.
They had a big revolt and protests against the gov over the way they handled the pandemic (see articles on Wikipedia for more context). I explained this revolt as told to me by my bus driver. That got me banned from Lemmy.ml (in a post asking what’s going on with Cuba).
Even in this thread if you see some of the replies here, there are lunatics claiming everything I said is fake and that I have ulterior motives. I’m shocked lol. I’m just a dude from Canada who went to Cuba a couple times on holiday.
So how is the situation in Cuba?
Last time I was there - hot, lacking proteins, rolling blackouts, and the bus follows its own schedule 😆 The convertible taxi drivers are cool and they’ve got these old ass 50s cars with modern stereo systems spliced in. I wish I had brought my bike to ride the coastlines. They’ve got some excellent roads right on the coast.
.ml or Cuba?
.ml probably stole their food.
Do you still maybe have a link to the post somewhere? I’m curious how’s Cuba like, I was wondering if I should maybe go for a trip there or if it’s a bad time.
My post was removed unfortunately but if you see my other comments in this thread I go over it a bit. The last time I was there it was last year so things could have changed.
If you’re going to a resort, expect to have few food options. You won’t go hungry but depending on all sorts of factors, you might only get eggs at the breakfast buffet once a week. It’s expected to tip the staff with a few USD. You can go into Havana or Varadero and go sightseeing and explore. Havana is better for this. Varadero is pretty touristy but still very nice. The restaurants in the city have much better food (I even had fried chicken!) but don’t drink anything with ice. The water isn’t filtered and you’ll probably get mild runs for a day. Wasn’t even that bad but was not a super comfortable day haha.
If you’re looking for a very cheap sunny beach vacation spot and don’t mind the limited food options, it’s great. Expect to only see Russian and Quebec tourists. You may stumble upon the odd Australian or British person but it’s like 60% French Canadians that go there, 30% Russians, and 10% other countries.
You’ll find no Americans there (since it’s illegal for them).
I got banned for reporting a Gaza Genocide denier. I was told that Gaza genocide denial is exempt from the normal rules and thus by reporting it I was being uncivil.
I also got a ban for “misinformation” for saying Kamala Harris supported Israel.
Lemmy.world communities will ban for pushing back against the western narrative, and pointing out their struggles are due to illegal sanctions, and not any failures of communism. Lemmy.ml communities won’t tolerate the willful ignorance.
Not the flex you think it is.
Willful ignorance is me talking about my lived experience when I was in Cuba? 😆 go outside.
“I went to Gaza twice in the past six years and the beach resorts were utter shit.”
If your “lived experience” just happens to align perfectly with US propaganda then yeah
I mean if the experience is same as the propaganda says then someone might think at least that part of the proparanda might be true. It doesn’t have to be all lies, best proparanda is one where you don’t have to lie
The only parts of US propaganda about Cuba that are even partially true are also the direct result of the US interfering with Cuba’s ability to trade with other countries freely
Not understanding the context of that experience is willful ignorance. Read a book.
Lol doubt it
You’ve never left your state lmao
I lived in six different states and another country before I started middle school, try again loser
If that’s your gold standard for a pile of shit, have you considered that you’ve been fooled to be content with a polished turd?
Lmao I’ve physically been there twice in the past 6 years and seen how things are with my own eyes.
You and your delusional friends will never convince me that my own lived experience is a lie haha. What a waste of your own time and energy.
You have physically been to a website? And you call me delusional? I was talking about lemmy.world, but we could always talk about Cuba as I’ve been there too.
Edit: I don’t think I will actually bother with this. May your understanding of the world surpass your understanding of context. Good bye.
And you are sure you weren’t given a staged tour that has nothing to do with the reality of most people?
When I bought cigars factory made, smuggled out and sold in shacks in Havanna I doubt it was part of the staged tour - Considering the staged tour was in the factory itself and we were told it was strickly forbidden to buy cigars straight from the factory workers. So we became friendly with them instead and met up after they finished their shift and went to their home shack where we had dinner together, dealt Cohibas and Romeo y Julieta and talked about how life in Cuba was.
But why ask? Have I even said anything about Cuba in this thread beyond that I’ve been there too? Perhaps you’re just an idiot?
The meme isn’t about lemmy.world. World has a shit ton of issues, including shitty admin and moderator behaviour, sure, but that’s not relevant to this meme.