• FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
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    1 day ago

    Hate for AI vs hate for big corporations and copyright laws. Which thing that they hate will Lemmy members defend passionately?

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      1 day ago

      Likely, whatever benefits the little guy. Most people don’t have a problem with copyright laws in a vacuum. It’s the abuse of those by large corporate entities that are the issue.

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      23 hours ago

      AI companies are not on the side of copyright reform or abolition. They just want an exception for themselves. They very much believe in trade secrets. They probably want copyright to eventually cover the current grey areas so that they can stop pretending they give a damn about open models.

      It’s not unreasonable to demand AI companies to play by the same rules as everyone else.

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        19 hours ago

        It’s not unreasonable to demand AI companies to play by the same rules as everyone else.

        But when you hate those very rules, shouldn’t you be cheering on the people that are seemingly ignoring them and are likely to try and challenge them in court/lobby to be changed/removed? Right? “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” and all that?

        Oh, but not when those people are evil capitalist companies that make AI product lol.

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          2 hours ago

          Like I said, the AI companies are not on the same side. The AI companies in the fight for their own selfish reasons. They’re eventually just going to make the copyright situation even more byzantine. They also make the copyright reform/abolition people look bad.

          It’s like if I say I’m an Anarchist and then I have to constantly say “well actually I don’t advocate for looting and vandalism nonsense, those dipshits don’t know shit about Anarchism”. Do you know how hard it is to advocate for more reasonable copyright policy reflecting modern times, when the current big crisis in the mind of artists and creators are the dipshit companies blatantly violating the law?

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      24 hours ago

      If we had a fair distribution of wealth I wouldn’t care about either of these really.

      Most artists care about attribution/fame somewhat but if they could live comfortably they wouldn’t care about royalties much or others using their art.

      Likewise for AI, automation is an amazing thing for civilization but when it is gatekeeped and used to make the rich richer it’s just exploitation of workers everywhere since they have to work as hard as they did one century ago with, arguably, less buying power.

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        19 hours ago

        If we had a fair distribution of wealth I wouldn’t care about either of these really.

        A “fair distribution of wealth” isn’t really a thing though. What you likely consider “fair” is most likely “not fair” to high income earners, correct?

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          19 hours ago

          Yes and idfaf. Work as much as you want to. No one gets a second home before everyone has at least one. That’s my position.