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      Multiple people know him as from a rightwing family, he was photographed in MAGA gear, and plenty of MAGA are secretly gay.

      None of what you’ve said is even minutely comparable to the abundance of evidence that says he’s a rightwing abused child from a MAGA family.

      He’s also a registered Republic卐n.

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        cis guy dating a trans woman is not “gay”. he may himself identify as queer or bisexual but we don’t have to misgender his girlfriend out of a desire to play up his purported right wingedness.

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          Sorry, my ignorance of LGBTQ does not dilute my point.

          However, in my ignorance, I touched on something you didn’t try to refute and I appreciate it: Republicans are quite often in the closet while publicly raging against the thing they secretly embrace.

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            thats for sure a thing. with regards to the shooter i recommend reading ken klippenstein’s piece on him, it does not sound like theres enough evidence to firmly consider him a conservative or a groyper or an anarchist yet. he’s weirdly apolitical (aside from executing a bigot for as-yet-vague reasons) and several definitive assertions have been made and later retracted by large media outlets, often citing sources that recanted or hearsay that proved false.

            https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/exclusive-leaked-messages-from-charlie

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              Thanks for the article. I’ll read it now.

              EDIT: I’d already read this one. It’s probably more factual than anything mainstream media has done and that’s including those from either side of the political spectrum.

              These days they’re all bowing to Trump anyways so who knows what to trust.

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          According to you, homosexuality is only about gender, not sex. This isn’t right and there is no consensus as far as I know. I would personally say a cis guy dating a trans woman is gay

          gender and sex are not the same, for the 100th time

          You’re the one inventing misgendering here

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            Attraction isn’t really exclusively based on sex, though. It’s about a whole range of factors, including how someone presents their personality and their physical traits. Many trans women have a lot of traits people find attractive in women generally, so being attracted to a trans woman is consistent with heterosexual attraction.

            This means that liking trans women doesn’t automatically mean you’re attracted to men, so calling it gay is an oversimplification of how attraction works.

            You could argue that in a strictly biological sense it is homosexual, but that ignores a whole range of social factors, which isn’t really how the term “gay” is colloquially used.

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              This means that liking trans women doesn’t automatically mean you’re attracted to men, so calling it gay is an oversimplification of how attraction works.

              I get it. Calling it hetero would seem like an oversimplification as well though. We need more words!

              Attraction isn’t really exclusively based on sex, though

              I get it, but making it solely based on gender isn’t a good idea as well I believe. Doesn’t seem specific enough. Also, trans women and trans men don’t necessarily change physically, right? They can still look like their birth gender, that’s what’s throwing me off I believe.

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            After a bit of research, it seems like it aims towards being based on gender and not sex, hmm. I might be wrong on this one?

            I believe I might think it’s about sex because I wouldn’t be interested in a non cisgender person, but that might only be me? I had the feeling that most heterosexual people would not be interested in trans people

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            Yes, and the voter registration is for a Tyler Robinson, not a Tyler James Robinson.

            The Snopes fact check has a screenshot of the registration of Tyler James Robinson.

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                Not on its own, but he’s not exactly a registered Republican either. Just wanted to correct that one thing.

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                    No, but I also hear that there are a lot of leftists with right wing parents, especially in Utah. Maybe that was why he moved out, I don’t know.

                    Maybe he was more right wing instead. I don’t know. I’m not the person who was saying he was leftist. I was just pointing out that he wasn’t a registered Republican.