• poopkins@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Android would be unprofitable and unsustainable in isolation. So that would leave each OEM to build their own thing, but to make a long story short, everybody would just get an iPhone. So then I wonder, if making such a ruling would create the void for a monopoly, what’s the sense?

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      7 hours ago

      It could be profitable the way RHEL or the Mozilla Foundation is profitable.

      Companies will pay for OS support, and companies will pay for access. Android as a foundation with a company selling OS support and services which could be rebranded would be profitable.

      I’m thinking about the wider IoT space here beyond only mobile.

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        5 hours ago

        The primary ways in which the Mozilla Foundation earns money is through search partnerships, donations and grants. Guess who is the major contributor.

        As for Red Hat, this comes down to subscriptions or enterprise offerings, neither which really apply to a consumer OS unless you’re willing to pay a subscription fee out of pocket. I doubt there will be much to be earned from offering consulting or training, either, unless they make Android exceedingly confusing to use.

        The only companies that would pay for Android are OEMs who are already making thin margins, and effectively it’d drive the price of non-iPhones up. The alternative is that OEMs take the Huawei option and fork AAOS and develop it at their own expense.

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          4 hours ago

          The primary ways in which the Mozilla Foundation earns money is through search partnerships, donations and grants.

          Yes. It’s the same thing with the Linux kernel and other large FOSS projects. There isn’t a perfect fit for Android, but it would be better than the way ASOP is run now.

          As for Red Hat, this comes down to subscriptions or enterprise offerings, neither which really apply to a consumer OS unless you’re willing to pay a subscription fee out of pocket.

          Consumer devices ship with proprietary software which is licensed all the time. It could be a library or an entire OS. Consumers are not the target market, like consumers aren’t the target market for RHEL.

          The prime example is Windows. It’s licensed to Dell or whomever and ships with the hardware. The license is baked in.

          Some people might be willing to pay if the price is reasonable enough. Android has support for major vendors, so using it as a base would be a boon to people doing things like media boxes and signage.

          I doubt there will be much to be earned from offering consulting or training, either, unless they make Android exceedingly confusing to use.

          It’s the opposite. Make it easy to use. Companies pay for tools which reduces developer time.

          The only companies that would pay for Android are OEMs who are already making thin margins, and effectively it’d drive the price of non-iPhones up.

          The smaller OEMs would pay for licenses, PS hours, and backend services. They don’t have the expertise or budget.

          Samsung? They’re going to keep doing what they’re doing because they have the expertise and budget to fork from upstream. It’s possible they would rally around Android, like companies have rallied around the Linux kernel.

          OEMs do this with Linux already, so it would bring Android more inline with the norms.

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        5 hours ago

        What do you mean by “get”? Who will be funding the creation of all these OSes? The phone margins are already razor thin.

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      8 hours ago

      Android could be profitable if Google Play Services went with it. However, that doesn’t exactly fix the monopoly problems associated with Android.

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        5 hours ago

        My interpretation of what the proponents of separating Android from Google are arguing is that it’s exactly Google Play, Gmail, Google Maps and the other parts of GMS that must be uncoupled.