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Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 25 天前

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  • NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml
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    25 天前

    Over a billion people all just so in denial.

    • Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk
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      25 天前

      That’s what propaganda does. China isn’t a free democracy.

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        25 天前

        I’m sure you know better than the actual Chinese people polled. Thanks for setting the record straight.

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          25 天前

          and when North Koreans say the Kim gang are great, we should believe them.

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            25 天前

            I believe them more than the obvious bullshit propaganda coming from the country that literally genocided them, lmao.

            You believe shit like every man in the country has to get the same haircut?

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              24 天前

              It would be a lot easier to combat other country’s propaganda if citizens were able to travel to or at least communicate with other countries. Why won’t the government allow them to do that? There isn’t any non-tyrannical reason to censor all media in and out of the country.

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              24 天前

              coming from the country that literally genocided them, lmao.

              Why are you assuming that the original commentator is American?

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                24 天前

                I’m not, I’m saying the propaganda comes from America.

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                  24 天前

                  You forgot to type “lmao” at the end of your sentence, just a friendly head’s up

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                    24 天前

                    Shit, thanks for the heads up

                • tottle@lemmy.ca
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                  24 天前

                  So when the South Korean government speaks poorly of North Korea, that’s American propaganda?

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                    24 天前

                    Considering South Korea is a direct vassal of the United States… Yeah basically, lol.

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                  23 天前

                  Is criticism of North Korea necessarily American propaganda?

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              24 天前

              wp:Let’s trim our hair in accordance with the socialist lifestyle

              The program claimed that long hair could adversely affect hygiene and human intelligence, as growing it “consumed nutrition” which would ultimately starve the brain of energy and reduce human intelligence[1].

              and,

              wp:2026 North Korean parliamentary election

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                24 天前

                https://thediplomat.com/2014/03/that-viral-kim-jong-un-haircut-story-is-another-hoax/

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                  Slate’s Joshua Keating pointed out that, while the latest haircut story is almost certainly a hoax, it isn’t without precedent. Back in 2005, North Korea launched a media campaign which argued that long hair “consumes a great deal of nutrition” and should thus be kept short.

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                  You believe shit like every man in the country has to get the same haircut?

                  No, but it seems that they have to have short hair. This seems to be the case with many Communist countries past and present.

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                    24 天前

                    There haven’t been any communist countries in the past and there certainly aren’t any in the present, lol.

                    Regardless, men aren’t forced to get the same haircut as Kim Jong un, despite dozens of western sources claiming it over the years. This is an example of the bullshit I was talking about.

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          25 天前

          Some times it takes an outsider to see the problems, and I’m not alone in seeing massive democratic problems in China. You don’t know who participated in that poll (and neither do I) was it random people on the street or pro party people? With the amount of surveillance in China, I probably would think twice before speaking against the party.

          The communist party has the sole power in China, while other parties technically are legal they haven’t got any power higher than city/regional level.

          And then there’s the corruption, they have massive problems with that.

          And before you go “hurr durr other countries bad” yes other countries do have problems and some may be worse than China, but that doesn’t legitimise Chinas government.

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            They lifted 800 million people out of poverty in 40 years and 90% of Chinese adults own their own home. They haven’t dropped a bomb in 50 years. They produce more solar panels in a year than the rest of the world has combined so far.

            Yeah. There’s a lot to like.

            Also, more data from a “better” source.

            https://rajawali.hks.harvard.edu/resources/understanding-ccp-resilience-surveying-chinese-public-opinion-through-time/

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            24 天前

            Tankie ideology treats China/USSR/North Korea the way that MAGA ideology treats trump.

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              24 天前

              Vote blue no matter who! 🤪

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                What happens in China if, in a protest, you burn the Chinese flag? In fact, what happens if you choose to protest against the government without obtaining licensure to do so through that government? Article 296 of criminal law. What about gay couples who want to get married or adopt kids? They must not have included gay people in that equal rights part of your graph.

                https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/china/report-china

                https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2026/country-chapters/china

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                  What happens if you protest the genocide in gaza in America? You get deported to a torture dungeon in a third world country.

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                    Literally not true over a million people and 2,500+ protests. Also does nothing to dispute anything I said. What I said is all objectively true and codified into law, what you said is unsupported, not codified. Though you may be able small fringe cases, that’s not the case for the overwhelming majority and I would heavily disagree with the US or any government doing that.

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          I see what you’re getting at but you only need to glance at the US to know that a lot of citizens of a country do NOT know WTF they’re talking about when it comes to their leadership.

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            You think there might be a bit of an education gap between the two countries looool?

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              China also do have a large population of lesser educated people. Not everyone in China are doctors or engineers.

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                If people are not doctors or engineers, they are not educated.

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                Obviously? We’re comparing them to America though, lol.

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      No country is perfect and that graph is highlighting who’s allowed to say that about their own country.

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        You think? You don’t think it has anything to do with the historically unprecedented rise in standard of living?

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          That may explain some of the positive results, but I think my original comment is a more plausible explanation as to why one single country would be such an outlier in your graph.

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            23 天前

            You think the Chinese thought police are able to keep over a billion people speaking positively about their country?

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