Having fucked up social discourse with Twitter and then Bluesky, Jack Dorsey claims he has seen the error of his ways, and definitely won’t do it a third time with his new nonprofit aimed at helping developers build and deploy (OSS or commercial) social media tech built on the Nostr platform (with AI!). Yeesh, I might be biased. Maybe I shouldn’t be writing these summaries.

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    Like it or not, Nostr is the only one that doesn’t tie my identity to a server. I’ve lost several Lemmy accounts during the Reddit migration and I’ve had to subscribe to new instances all over again. Once it’s down, really hard to migrate anything

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      This is the advantage of decentralization over federation. IMHO the fact that Lemmy is only federated really hurts it. Not so much for user accounts (in theory these can be backed up restored and moved. Not ideal but not awful) but in that communities are tied to servers. When the server a community is on goes away it is hugely damaging to that community.

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        57 minutes ago

        lemm.ee leaving made me not want to use this as much and I had 6 different accounts, it was just the main

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      Hubzilla has successfully implemented portable identities for a number of years and i am surprised how its unheard of. Coupled with magic sign-on it has some of the craziest features that are much needed in the broader fediverse.

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        56 minutes ago

        how is it compared to friendica, can you make dislikes not anonymous there too? that was the funniest feature

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        Can you link me to the feature? Or at least tell me the name so that I can look it up?

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          Here are two resources that document these features:

          1. Nomadic Identity: Nomadic identity means true ownership of online identity. With Hubzilla, you don’t have an account on a server, you own an identity that you can take with you across the grid. You can clone a channel across multiple hubs for resilience against network failures or censorship, or you can completely move a channel from one hub to another, taking your data and connections with you.
            https://hubzilla.org/help/member/clone
          2. Magic Sign-on https://magicsignon.org/rmagic
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              the hubzilla network and some other projects have this implemented and it works nicely, a person on hub1 can simply visit hub2 and interact (like comment etc.) since hub2 authenticates user with hub1 using this protocol. I am not a developer of this but it has been tested and used since a number of years.

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                I get that part. That sounds a of like the fediverse. But that cloning feature looks like you clone everything you do between many instances which is awesome, but I’m not sure how they could clone like counts. AFAIK they would either have to instruct the likers client to go like on the other instances, or trust the number reported by the OP

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                  If someone likes my comment then my account relays that activity to the clones to keep them in sync.

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                    2 hours ago

                    So the other server trusts what your account says? What is stopping you from sending fake likes?