I condemn the racist politics of the right-extremist government of Israel and the social segregation and severe injustice it causes. What is your point?
Israel is an apartheid state, this isn’t new, this isn’t something that the current government did, this is the establishing principle of the state that has been held up since the start, calling an apartheid state “diverse” like you did in your first post is absolutely incorrect and is not close to the reality of the situation in any way shape or form, it’s pure propaganda
There was this thing you all constantly choose to ignore, called the holocaust, that afaik not just a lot of antifascists see as a reason why Israel must exist, simply because otherwise the Jews will not survive capitalism.
having suffered in the past does not give a group of people free reign to commit those same acts against a separate unaffiliated population, having an ethnostate in the first place is not a good goal, but even if we said it was necessary, doing it through the ethnic cleansing and genocide of another group is not at all justifiable in any way.
treating things as if jews are simply different from regular people and could never survive as a minority in another country so they should not be judged by the same standard we apply to everyone is in itself an anti-semitic view to have, jews are regular people, committing genocide and ethnic cleansing is bad, whoever does it and however noble their goal is doesn’t change that fact.
Israel is an apartheid state, this isn’t new, this isn’t something that the current government did, this is the establishing principle of the state that has been held up since the start
I of course know and absolutely condemn that, again what is your point?
Calling an apartheid state “diverse” like you did in your first post is absolutely incorrect and is not close to the reality of the situation in any way shape or form, it’s pure propaganda
Nope, Israel is the most diverse country in the whole region without question and it is also also the only democracy in the region. Other countries in the region are monarchies or (often military) dictatorships. On top of that, Israel is also the only country in the region that has womens and LGBTQ+ rights written into it’s law, while in all other countries in the region women are being oppressed second class citizens and LGBTQ+ have to fear for their life constantly.
having suffered in the past does not give a group of people free reign to commit those same acts against a separate unaffiliated population
Agreed but sadly, when we look at history, it seems to happen quite often, no matter if we like it or not.
having an ethnostate in the first place is not a good goal, but even if we said it was necessary, doing it through the ethnic cleansing and genocide of another group is not at all justifiable in any way.
I fully agree with that statement. However this does not justify generalizing all Israeli citizens as child murderers.
treating things as if jews are simply different from regular people and could never survive as a minority in another country so they should not be judged by the same standard we apply to everyone is in itself an anti-semitic view to have, jews are regular people
I fully agree with you that jews are just people like everyone else but we should also consider the regular antisemitic pogroms that happened throughout history, which are an obvious motivation for a community to get their own safe space in the world.
committing genocide and ethnic cleansing is bad, whoever does it and however noble their goal is doesn’t change that fact.
Absolutely agree. Please keep in mind that I in fact never apologized any of the crimes of the IDF or the illegal settlers. All I did was criticizing the antisemitic generalization of all citizens of Israel as casual child murderers. Sadly it seems like most people’s opinions are simply too polarized to get such nuances at this point.
You don’t have arguments, you have the trolling equivalent of scruffy lip hair a 15 year old boy will try to call a mustache.
You’re arguing in defense of the slaughter of 5000 children. If you organize them by age, you had to go six pages in before you hit an age greater then zero. And that was a week ago.
You’re sealioning over the corpses of children and trying to ‘I’m just trying to have a mature discussion’.
Israel is an apartheid state, this isn’t new, this isn’t something that the current government did, this is the establishing principle of the state that has been held up since the start, calling an apartheid state “diverse” like you did in your first post is absolutely incorrect and is not close to the reality of the situation in any way shape or form, it’s pure propaganda
having suffered in the past does not give a group of people free reign to commit those same acts against a separate unaffiliated population, having an ethnostate in the first place is not a good goal, but even if we said it was necessary, doing it through the ethnic cleansing and genocide of another group is not at all justifiable in any way.
treating things as if jews are simply different from regular people and could never survive as a minority in another country so they should not be judged by the same standard we apply to everyone is in itself an anti-semitic view to have, jews are regular people, committing genocide and ethnic cleansing is bad, whoever does it and however noble their goal is doesn’t change that fact.
I of course know and absolutely condemn that, again what is your point?
Nope, Israel is the most diverse country in the whole region without question and it is also also the only democracy in the region. Other countries in the region are monarchies or (often military) dictatorships. On top of that, Israel is also the only country in the region that has womens and LGBTQ+ rights written into it’s law, while in all other countries in the region women are being oppressed second class citizens and LGBTQ+ have to fear for their life constantly.
Agreed but sadly, when we look at history, it seems to happen quite often, no matter if we like it or not.
I fully agree with that statement. However this does not justify generalizing all Israeli citizens as child murderers.
I fully agree with you that jews are just people like everyone else but we should also consider the regular antisemitic pogroms that happened throughout history, which are an obvious motivation for a community to get their own safe space in the world.
Absolutely agree. Please keep in mind that I in fact never apologized any of the crimes of the IDF or the illegal settlers. All I did was criticizing the antisemitic generalization of all citizens of Israel as casual child murderers. Sadly it seems like most people’s opinions are simply too polarized to get such nuances at this point.
Democracies that require the demographic majority remain the demographic majority aren’t democracies.
Neither are apartheid States.
Why do you ignore all the arguments I made? Got nothing to counter I guess?
You don’t have arguments, you have the trolling equivalent of scruffy lip hair a 15 year old boy will try to call a mustache.
You’re arguing in defense of the slaughter of 5000 children. If you organize them by age, you had to go six pages in before you hit an age greater then zero. And that was a week ago.
You’re sealioning over the corpses of children and trying to ‘I’m just trying to have a mature discussion’.
There is nothing mature about what you are doing.
It’s disgusting and you are fucking disgusting.