• AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip
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    5 days ago

    From my understanding, Graphene is still extremely dependent on upstream development of Android so they can focus on their security improvements. I don’t think they have the manpower to properly fork it.

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      There is a solid basis though, and it wouldn’t be unthinkable to create a foundation around it that could take it forward on its own. And if there are vendors shipping it, then some money might get thrown at the effort too.

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        I unfortunately think you underestimate the workload here. Developing an OS is a massive undertaking, and it would require a huge community of developers to come forward and take up the job. I just don’t see it happening spontaneously. In my opinion, if they ever lose upstream support, Graphene just dies.

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          What is an OS? is Android an OS or just an application layer? Because most of its deep close-to-metal components are not maintained by Google.

          What is “developing”? is keeping things stable “developing”? I actually wish Google stopped releasing breaking changes…

          IMHO, I actually think Android would be a better off if Google stopped experimenting with it, “developing” it, and adding stuff nobody asked for.

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          I’m not saying it would be easy or would happen spontaneously, just that it’s not impossible. There is already a solid base to work off and there is a lot of interest in having an open mobile platform. I reject the notion that only large corps can do such things.

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          And Android piggybacks on Linux. Turtles all the way down, until you get the actual developers committing real effort. And no one is talking about spontaneously, rather realistically 0.5-20 million euros in funding from the EU. Is it viable then? If not, realistically, what would be the threshold for viability?