• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    It’s fun watching this person berate you for being homophobic over an analogy while wholeheartedly supporting a dictator who persecuted, imprisoned, and forced conversion on homosexuals.

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      5 hours ago

      Oh, guess you lied about changing your mind and missed me praising the progress of modern Cuba in cementing a much better family code.

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        4 hours ago

        What are you talking about? The point of comparing Fidel’s actions and the commenter’s analogy was to illustrate the severity of Castro’s actions by comparison, not minimize the offensive analogy. They’re also aggressively berating the other person, unlike your genuine attempt at connection in the other thread.

        Your comment feels like bad faith. If you’re genuinely stating that my comment implies that homophobic analogies are justified by Castro’s atrocities, I’ll delete it. I have no interest in offending an entire group of people.

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          5 hours ago

          The user you are replying to has only had issue with Castro “jailing political dissidents,” who were supporters of the fascist (and homophobic) slaver Batista regime. When this was pointed out, they never spoke out against it.

          I assert that the Communists taking power was good for the people of Cuba, and that those like Castro are demonized because they liberated Cuba from colonizers, slavers, and fascists. Castro, however, was not a saint free from sin, merely a far better person than Batista with the Cuban people at heart.

          I of course detest homophobia, and don’t erase that. However, it remains important to recognize that homosexuality was illegal in Batista’s reign, and that the system Castro helped build was the one that ultimately passed the current Family Code that is among the best for the LGBT community on the planet.

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            5 hours ago

            We can agree to disagree on Castro. I’m more concerned with unintentionally offending people’s sexuality. Do you think it reads more as minimization of the offensiveness of the analogy, or illustrating the severity of Fidel’s actions by comparison? Honest answer please.

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              Given that you already know that I’m pansexual and presumably know that the hill the user you replied to has chosen to die on the hill of defending Batista and the fascists jailed by Castro, one has to see that you calling me hypocritical for calling them out on their use of homophobic insults without them bring up anything about Castro with respect to homosexuality is a minimization of their homophobia.

              In this case, again, it was thanks to the democratic institutions put in place by the Communists that even allowed homosexuality to be legalized, rather than continuing to be enslaved and colonized.

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                5 hours ago

                I wasn’t being critical of you. I legitimately appreciated our conversation. BrainInaBox is the user that’s being insultingly critical of others without a clear explanation of how it’s offensive. If they handled it the way that you did, I wouldn’t have made the snarky comment.

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                  4 hours ago

                  BrainInABox agreed with me regarding homophobia, and likely didn’t think it necessary to repeat what I had already said.

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                    4 hours ago

                    Again, not to me. My comment was regarding BrainInaBox’s treatment of another user. Had they not repeatedly and angrily vilified the other user, maybe their point would’ve been heard.

                    You should teach them diplomacy and respect if you really want to support the message. They didn’t want to hear it from me.