Ok, so you can trust “the masses” only if they support their government or policies you like. If they observe incompetence, corruption or oppression by their nonNATO state its a NATO psyop? Not sure if that’s as strong an argument for socialism as you seem to think.
Ok, so you can trust “the masses” only if they support their government or policies you like.
I for sure wouldn’t trust people that, for example, supported the German government in 1933-1945 (actually, the vast majority of German governments), or the people who support the states that invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and which are engaging in the genocide in Palestine.
or the people who support the states that invaded (…) Afghanistan
Oh here it is! That’s blatantly anticommunist of you.
But otherwise you are claiming that these masses were/are to stupid to make their own decisions? Not that I particularly disagree its just funny how you pick the right masses to suit your policies, and if the masses don’t support them - to bad for them.
Oh here it is! That’s blatantly anticommunist of you.
How so?
Are you one of those weirdos that think that reluctantly answering the call of the government of Afghanistan to intervene against your invasion somehow itself counts as an invasion?
But otherwise you are claiming that these masses were/are to stupid to make their own decisions?
The issue isn’t “stupidity”. The issue is malice - those people (you included) understand that they would benefit from plundering Africa, Asia and elsewhere, and opt to support the empire that promises them that plunder. Then, they proceed to pretend that the lack of plundering is oppression of them.
I would argue that not giving specifically such people political power is good. Imagine that - the results (including the expected ones) do matter.
You mean the thing that NATO admitted to?
Ok, so you can trust “the masses” only if they support their government or policies you like. If they observe incompetence, corruption or oppression by their nonNATO state its a NATO psyop? Not sure if that’s as strong an argument for socialism as you seem to think.
I for sure wouldn’t trust people that, for example, supported the German government in 1933-1945 (actually, the vast majority of German governments), or the people who support the states that invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and which are engaging in the genocide in Palestine.
Oh here it is! That’s blatantly anticommunist of you.
But otherwise you are claiming that these masses were/are to stupid to make their own decisions? Not that I particularly disagree its just funny how you pick the right masses to suit your policies, and if the masses don’t support them - to bad for them.
How so?
Are you one of those weirdos that think that reluctantly answering the call of the government of Afghanistan to intervene against your invasion somehow itself counts as an invasion?
The issue isn’t “stupidity”. The issue is malice - those people (you included) understand that they would benefit from plundering Africa, Asia and elsewhere, and opt to support the empire that promises them that plunder. Then, they proceed to pretend that the lack of plundering is oppression of them.
I would argue that not giving specifically such people political power is good. Imagine that - the results (including the expected ones) do matter.