• MalReynolds@slrpnk.net
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    14 hours ago

    So a repeat of the crypto crash for graphics cards when ASICs ate their lunch. Mind you, that’s only for inference (although a super fast QWEN 3.8 would meet a lot of peoples needs).

    The argument for datacentres is for training the models, but then they’ll need to prove that they haven’t hit a diminishing returns wall, which will be hard if, as seems likely, they have. Also the Chinese have been doing it in a cave, with a box of scraps (figuratively), and gotten at least 90+% as good results.

    Seems like the recent advances have been in the frameworks, which don’t need no stinking (literally if fossil fueled) datacentres.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      6 hours ago

      Right, I’d argue that China proves you don’t need massive data centers for training. And yeah, I think something like Qwen 3.8 is more than enough for tasks most people do. There are a lot of tricks you can do as well with the harness, where there’s a lot of attention is shifting now. And it’s a lot cheaper and faster to develop better harnesses than train new models. I expect we’ll start seeing a shift towards neurosymbolic systems before long where the LLM acts as a stochastic component within a symbolic logic engine.