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  • Yeah! We need to make it really clear that we don’t care about the really big greenhouse gas producers, or the people that are a thousand times more wealthy and more problematic than Tailor Swift.

    We just want to sound like we care by targeting someone who is comparatively not doing that much damage.

    It’s all for the lulls after all.












  • deaf_fish@lemm.eetomemes@lemmy.worldA bit late
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    5 months ago

    the context that lead to the statement being made in the first place.

    But I don’t think that context is necessary to agree/disagree with the statement. What context could men’s feelings be more important that women’s safety?

    i provided one in the above statement which was a very literal interpretation of that statement, which quite literally interprets the fact that your feelings sometimes provide negative influence to your perceived safety. To use a specific example here, you may have a fear of heights, which leads to you feeling “unsafe” at heights, even though it’s a psychological adaptation that you have causing it. Although in that case it’s pretty well understood to be a psychological adaptation of something, so that’s not a common thing.

    Sorry, I was expecting something worded like “I feel less safe up high because I am afraid of heights so how can feelings be less important than safety”, so I didn’t catch your example.

    Yeah, I think that someone could interpret it like that. But I feel like you could pretty easily explain that feeling safe and being actually safe are not the same things. Someone who is confused can easily be caught up and someone who is being malicious would have a hard time not looking silly. I feel like this level of confusion would have a pretty low occurrence count. So I feel like this specific confusion would be a reasonable risk.

    If you say a statement and someone goes “yeah no i don’t get that”

    My issue with this is that depends on the people joining the conversation. Also depends on how malicious they are. Like if someone didn’t know what “safety” meant. You can solve this by copy-pasting the dictionary definition of “safety”, but then then the next person who joins might not understand the concept of feelings, or not understand some of the words in the definition of “safety”. This is a never ending task.

    I think a better way is to target a specific audience. You will lose people outside of that target, but that is unavoidable and will happen with any strategy. Hopefully some of them ask questions or for clarifications, so your message can spread to those groups. I think it is important to be as inclusive as you can be. But most people on here (including me) are doing this in their spare time. So it’s not like we have much flexibility to improve things.

    That all being said, I think this meme was well targeted and effective. Did we solve the problem, no, that was never possible to begin with. But we did provide nice discussion about it. We let the extremists show off how silly they were. We let confused people ask questions and get answers. We gave the general public a good showing so they can decide what is right and wrong.

    bringing it down to something like “safety is more important than feelings” is so inherently vague

    In my mind this is as vague as the original post when it comes to the truth of the statement. The only difference is adding genders which doesn’t affect the meaning of the statement.


  • deaf_fish@lemm.eetomemes@lemmy.worldA bit late
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    5 months ago

    Thank you for explaining that.

    i’ll make a mockery of it by misinterpreting the ever living shit out of it because i think it’s funny.

    Hilarious, I do like a good trolling.

    missing obvious context

    Like what context specifically?

    Which can lead to really funny misinterpretations of this statement specifically

    Can you give me some specific examples? It would help me understand.

    But hey look at that, i might be wrong and misunderstanding

    Which is fine. English is a very imperfect language (most languages are, but that is the best we have). Most of the people are wrong most of the time, including me.

    What is your threshold for vagueness here? You would need to have a programming language to remove vagueness down to 0% and encoding this meme perfectly would be 20 pages of code if not more.


  • deaf_fish@lemm.eetomemes@lemmy.worldA bit late
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    5 months ago

    I agree with most of what you’re saying.

    You keep coming back to the vauge thing and I don’t understand how it’s vague.

    If I didn’t know any current events, I would still agree with the statement. I might be curious as to why the statement needed to be made but that is something I could figure out later.