Wow the capitalists let you work and actually pay you?

I’ve worked for various militaries and governments, the decisions I’ve made have hurt people, when I say hurt I don’t mean physical harm but the choices I’ve made have impacted people lives. When people celebrate war they have the urge to hurt people whether they want to admit it or not.

Yeah it is I’m not denying it, but as a person who has often experienced the urge to hurt people I can’t pretend I’m some saint I just do everything I can to avoid that urge and the people and things that try to stir it up in me…

Of course it doesn’t I completely agree with you, but honestly the military is fucking demonic and the urge to harm other people can come from lots of places, I wish I could say I’m immune to it I’m not sadly and neither are you probably. I think you’re misinterpreting the meme a bit, I feel it’s a lot more mean spirited. This isn’t a personal attack by the way.

Mad? No, but will I point out that the US military/every military spends ungodly sums of money on propaganda whether it be movies or video games or books or art to get dumb young men to join. Do I blame people for being propagandized from birth? No. Does that excuse the people who joined just because they wanted to kill people? No. Do I think people are capable of change? Yes. Its not like there isn’t plenty of military propaganda on this website.

How I feel rn: 😮‍💨

I don’t care about the Soviet constitution anymore dude for all I know somebody gave me a fake version to read. I remember reading it in some version of the constitution I found online like 14 years ago though so I made a joke about it. Honestly seeing how most contemporary States work having a constitutional guarantee to something doesn’t mean much anyways seeing as powerful people tend pick and chose when to enforce their own laws and that seems to be the case everywhere so I doubt it was very different in the USSR.

Anyways it would be cool if people found a way to stop destroying the environment and starting wars I’m still waiting for that political miracle.

Lots of them are yes, I’d say capitalism is the latest mode in which humans can express their problems.

Lol what?

No thanks I don’t need some one constantly explaining that to me. I’d rather have some one reminding people to wash their hands.

I do, but that won’t stop some one on the internet explaining it to me for the 100th time.

I think you missed the point of what I was saying and idk what you mean by eurocomm. Anyways it’s late and I’m tired I probably won’t be back for a while because posting is dumb, so bon voyage fellow traveller.

Ah I figured you were american, don’t take this the wrong way but I feel like you guys often treat European leftism more like an intellectual exercise than what it actually was which was a mass political movement that touched millions of peoples lives in different ways. Millions of people lost their lives families were torn apart whole countries were dissolved or they gained their independence. I don’t think the United States has ever really experienced anything like it since the civil war. The twentieth century is moving further and further away but for lots of people the political systems it created and ideological conflicts had very real effects on the people who experienced them.

Its cool, don’t worry about it if people know a lot about history they’ll probably be able to guess from the context and most intelligence agencies already know who I am if they wanted to come for me they could. I just don’t need to make it explicit 😀

More than just draining politics can get you killed. I edited my other post so idk if you saw it but just out of interest are you american? You don’t need to dox yourself it’s why I didn’t tell you which country I’m talking about, but you were close to guessing which social democratic party I’m talking about.

No not the SPD, just out of interest are you american?

It was a big part of why the Nazi party came to power and why so many people didn’t fight back against it people were so disillusioned with politics and the socialist parties had lost a lot of trust.

By the time fascism was on the rise they were just in survival mode because they’d already seen one war and just wanted to survive the next one. It’s was hard to get a bunch of people to fight for an idea that has screwed them over already. It definitely wasn’t the right thing to do but it turns out not every one is a hero when it comes to fighting oppressive regimes even if they don’t like them. Enough people will just keep their heads down and try to survive.

History isn’t something that just takes place in books it happened to real people who also play a role in shaping its outcome. The only reason I’m still doing leftist stuff is because I met Eric Hobsbawm (or im pretty sure it was him) and I promised him I’d keep fighting for a better future.

I know what Social Democratic parties were, I’m trying to explain to you that some people were already disillusioned by what you call communist parties before the Bolsheviks had their revolution. I’m telling you I had family members who were part of the revolutionary proletariat before the Social Democratic communist split and by the time the first world war ended they were already disillusioned with the whole ideology.

You do know that communist parties grew out of social democratic parties right? Seeing as my family members weren’t Russian it was kind of irrelevant for them what the Bolsheviks were doing they were sick of war, they were just were trying to scrape food together because at the end of the first world war people in continental Europe were starving and the idea of waging a class war for the radical section of the party that sent you into the war in the first place just seemed tiresome.

Anyways what I’m getting at is I kind of understand why so many people are cynical about socialism since for some people its not some crazy new radical idea, they’ve been burnt by politics before.

Lol, the Bolsheviks were a faction of the Russian social democratic party. I’m not Russian.

What I’m telling you now is part of my families personal history as ordinary workers who supported the Social Democratic party in the late 19th and early 20th century People did feel betrayed by the social democrats when they supported the first world war. I know that my family members thought that universal suffrage and the ability to vote for a party that said they had the workers best interests at heart would usher in a better world. For them there definitely a utopian aspect to socialism. After the first world war my great grandparents were like fuck that shit, they felt betrayed and didn’t bother joining the communist party anymore.

Did some edits just to make my writing less shitty.