Those polls select from us adults who are registered democrats. What makes you think the party elites give a shit what they think? I know it’s not past precedent. Democrats typically use polling to justify not changing things. The way they fought Mamdani clearly demonstrates this. One anomalous Mamdani cannot reasonably justify hope in electoral reform. Capital will do all it can to extinguish Socialism as it always does. This system was made by and for capitalists and cannot be used as the sole means of establishing a socialist system.

Yeah, I butchered it also.

“Firstly, it is not true that fascism is only the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. Fascism is not only a military-technical category. Fascism is the bourgeoisie’s fighting organisation that relies on the active support of Social-Democracy. Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism. There is no ground for assuming that the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of Social-Democracy. There is just as little ground for thinking that Social-Democracy can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. These organisations do not negate, but supplement each other. They are not antipodes, they are twins. Fascism is an informal political bloc of these two chief organisations; a bloc, which arose in the circumstances of the post-war crisis of imperialism, and which is intended for combating the proletarian revolution. The bourgeoisie cannot retain power without such a bloc. It would therefore be a mistake to think that “pacifism” signifies the liquidation of fascism. In the present situation, “pacifism” is the strengthening of fascism with its moderate, Social-Democratic wing pushed into the forefront.”

Source: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/09/20.htm

I am interested in your perspective on differences between the original writing and the use of the phrase today.

Yes, you are wrong. You are also parroting Marco Rubio with the false allegations against Delcy Rodríguez. So, not just wrong but wrong, dishonest, arrogant, and gullible.

Please go back to keeping your mouth shut.

And you can tell by the way that it is, unironically.

Wow. I see the first four or five things you mentioned as the primary enablers of “this sort of thing,” if by that you mean the theft of resources and destabilization of governance in the global south.

Please don’t apologize. I was going more for the “social democracy is the left wing of fascism” point. I was thinking of the sides of the coin as being the ideologies of each, not necessarily their version of the propaganda in the meme. I particularly enjoyed the way you reiterated your point in the paragraph beginning “How this relates”

Wow. It takes a lot of arrogance to spout off unsubstantiated bullshit, ignore all direct questions and requests for clarification, and then tell the coherent interlocutors they are simply ignorant which is clearly projection.

I hope you grow to a point where you can look back on this comment and appreciate what a word salad it is.

The post does not go into kill counts as a direct comparison. It simply states that the us will be remembered as worse than nazi germany. So no, that is not the reason. I’m calling out your behavior specifically as problematic.

“They went into hiding or ran away.”

Yeah, they ran away to POSITIONS OF POWER. Just like the American Confederacy, the defeated belligerent was not sufficiently snuffed out after the official victory.

Yes that makes sense. The premises are too shaky for the argument to be sound despite the valid structure (which the commenter did not use and I pulled out of my ass).

I was mainly writing it out as an exercise to myself but left it because it kinda worked as a joke lol

I do very much appreciate an earnest answer.

Democratic Socialism will not be the norm because the Democratic party will not allow that to happen. What about recent party history gives you hope that this could occur? I find this hope to be naive.

Alright. Privilege is still relative. Being defensive is not going to change that.

The fear of “sticking your neck out” is still very individualistic thinking. The goal is to learn and organize so WE can stick our necks out together. My lionizing of former martyrs is not an attempt to shame you. I still think that “don’t be like the people who actually induced change because they were martyred” is a terrible take.

Could you clarify why it’s not good reasoning?

• A = u.s. abducts leader
• B = leader is a problem for the u.s.
• C = leader is a boon to the people
• D = leader is (likely) legitimately elected

Argument:

• If A then B
• If B then C
• If C then D
• A
• Therefore D

We just need “If C then D” to chain A to D since the comment up top didn’t mention it . Oh, I think I see a problem here. In the us with leaders we constantly have “D and not C,” and even worse than the not C’s are the nazis. Ok, I’ll stop.

For clarification’s sake, the coin is capitalism.

If the Democrats refuse to fight, then the midterms don’t mean shit. We also can’t ignore previous administrations that built the camps and deported in record numbers. The us has always been a democracy for the capitalists only. It’s a white supremacist settler colony, and we can’t scapegoat Trump just because he is like the living avatar of us cultural ideals in the worst way. Even if Democrats somehow have all three branches in '28 and somehow unfuck the supreme court, we cannot consider reform as an end in itself. They are still capitalists who will concede very little, if anything, to the people.

Well, a lot of the nazi leadership didn’t lose, at least not personally. I don’t know about former nazi or nazi descendant historians specifically, but I doubt the thousands of nazis who escaped via ratlines engaged in zero whitewashing. Hell, just look at us corporate ties to nazi germany which alone gives the us reason to obscure parts of the history.

That’s a terrible way to be treated. I hope you have a better experience if you ever choose to try again.

That’s the most concise geopolitical overview I’ve seen.

Is it possible that you can’t see the opinion changing because it is a very slow process that you are only living through a portion of? I’ve noticed more people mentioning the Bengal famine when Churchill is lionized, for example.