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    11 hours ago

    Lmaooo, “don’t use a shock collar on your dog live on stream because he didn’t lie on his spot for 12 hours where he’s nicely positioned in the camera” is a right wing talking point to you. You need fucking help mate.

    I also don’t know why you bring politics into this. I’m not american. I couldn’t give two fucking shits about hassans political stance. All I see is an asshole who’s torturing an animal live on stream and people defending it with a: “Oh No ItS a RiGhT wInG tAlKiNg PoInT.”

    Some news for you, just because someone has the same political opinion as you doesn’t mean he’s a good person by default. And if you defend their heinous actions, I got some more news for you: Neither are you.

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      How many animals have you rescued from shelters? How have you been protesting shock collar manufacturers?

      They brought politics in because it’s a smear you’re furthering as you ignore the facts and you couldn’t give 2 shits about animals let alone other humans.

      We found the eurocuck betamale Asmeinkampf watcher.

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        We found the eurocuck betamale Asmeinkampf watcher.

        Might be hard for you to understand, but not everyone is american. I couldn’t give two shits about the political problems over there. I got enough in my own country.

        However, what I do see is that you are supporting a dog torturer simply because he has the same political stance as you do, which makes you pretty despicable tbh.

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          You didn’t have to confirm it for me via reading comprehension, but go on.

          Might be hard for you to understand, but not everyone is american.

          eurocuck

          And when did this become litigated fact?

          However, what I do see is that you are supporting a dog torturer

          Because there was no torture nor shock collar. And you’re the one arguing that shock collars “have their uses.” Except not in this instance, now it’s torture because the online echo chamber says it is and because a bunch of people say it’s a shock collar, it must be. A bunch of people say the earth is flat too, or that vaccines “don’t work” and cause autism, are you a subscriber of those too?

          C’mon man, nobody believes your slop.

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            It’s genuinely funny, you know that I’m not american, yet you will automatically assume that I have to watch asmongold just because I dislike hassan, as if every human on the planet HAS to watch either of these two dumbasses. Because there’s no other content creators on gods green earth and every human on the planet MUST be involved in the american culture war, right?

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              It’s called inferring. Most of his audience are outside of the US. This is also where the shock collar conspiracy thrives.

              Difference is my inference is based on logic and yours is based on a bunch of online people repeating the same false talking point, whether it be Destiny, Asmon, or whoever. Regardless if you do actually watch those streamers or not, you lack the intellectual capacity to actually do any research or fact finding yourself and just repeat the slop from these sources.

              every human on the planet MUST be involved in the american culture war, right?

              Brother, you’re the one perpetuating a culture war between streamers with this shock collar conspiracy. We wouldn’t be talking about this if you did any research that didn’t come from right wing spheres of influence. And you’re getting defensive about it as you’re rightfully attacked for not doing the bare minimum of fact checking literally anything.

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                Difference is my inference is based on logic

                Ah yes. Of course.

                yours is based on a bunch of online people repeating the same false talking point, whether it be Destiny, Asmon, or whoever.

                No, it’s based of me seeing a clip of hassan, being mad at his dog, pushing a button of screen and then hearing his dog yelp. Ironically, the first time I really heard about this is because someone made an AI song about it, and that led me to finding more context to it, which I eventually found.

                you lack the intellectual capacity to actually do any research or fact finding yourself and just repeat the slop from these sources.

                I actually laughed while reading this ngl, shit made me crack up. Nothing funnier than some chronically online clown talking down to other people.

                And you’re getting defensive about it as you’re rightfully attacked for not doing the bare minimum of fact checking literally anything.

                That is a fucking WILD statement coming from you, who’s only defense is: “ITS A RIGHT WING TALKING POINT!!! PLEASE STOP SPREADING RIGHT WING TALKING POINTS!!!”. But I get it, it’s convenient. You can just pretend those don’t exist or are all made up and can think of yourself as morally superior, even tho you can just search for the simple terms: “hassan dog” and you will find the original clip lmao. You’d probably defend big yahu himself if he’d just support your political agenda.

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                  seeing a clip of hassan

                  I know why you spelled his name like that. You’re not being as clever as you think you are.

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                  That is a fucking WILD statement coming from you, who’s only defense is: “ITS A RIGHT WING TALKING POINT!!! PLEASE STOP SPREADING RIGHT WING TALKING POINTS!!!”

                  Brother, I said shock collars don’t work on breeds like that given that the contacts have trouble making contact.

                  Heck, even Ethan Klein, an avid enemy of Hasan, even came out and said the supposed collar in use was a very mild sensation, far from “torturous.”

                  https://tribune.com.pk/story/2571860/ethan-klein-investigates-shock-collar-controversy-surrounding-hasan-piker

                  You’ve got Hasan’s statement, which you obviously discredit entirely as you’ve determined he’s guilty already

                  https://www.out.com/voices/straight-nonsense-hasan-piker-s-dog-collar

                  And further, the pushing of this narrative has led to threats against Hasan himself as well as threats to kidnap Kaya.

                  https://www.documentarytube.com/blog/hasan-pikers-dog-shock-collar-controversy-explained/

                  All based on a couple of ambiguous clips.

                  If you trust video evidence infallibly, you probably trust police bodycam as it could never be interpreted or abused to support a narrative counter to what actually occured, right? Right?

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP4_2soVZe0

                  I’ve got the articles, reports, and clips that all leave this as inconclusive at best. But go on, what have you got? Where’s your smoking gun that this is abuse? That this alleged shock collar was designed for maximum pain? The burn marks on the dogs yet? What have you got that we don’t that allows you to make that judgement your honor?

                  Fucking Brandolini’s law in action which is how right wing slop, racial supremacists, and grifters all shove themselves into discourse when they should remain as the dregs of society.

                  This is why I will infinitely respect those who take the time to educate themselves, look at objective reality, and come to an informed conclusions as opposed to drivel like you who work backwards from a preconceived idea and make claims with no evidentiary backing because you know it’s easy, requires no effort on your part, and it’ll get a rise out of people. Hence: right wing slop.

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                    Brother, I said shock collars don’t work on breeds like that given that the contacts have trouble making contact.

                    Which is factually wrong - there are collars that offer interchangeable contacts so you can adjust it for different dog breeds.

                    You’ve got Hasan’s statement, which you obviously discredit entirely as you’ve determined he’s guilty already

                    You’d be absolutely correct on that.

                    And further, the pushing of this narrative has led to threats against Hasan himself as well as threats to kidnap Kaya.

                    Which is obviously wrong, but doesn’t make it a better situation lmao.

                    If you trust video evidence infallibly, you probably trust police bodycam as it could never be interpreted or abused to support a narrative counter to what actually occured, right? Right?

                    Well, yes. I’m not very familiar with how bodycams are used in america, but if we’re looking at the entire situation and not just a small section that is misrepresented, I would absolutely trust the video evidence. To be fair, these days, it’s a lot harder to tell with AI running rampant, but that’s a non-factor in this case in particular as AI wasn’t that powerful back when this happened.

                    I’m not watching a 23 min video tho, sorry.

                    But go on, what have you got?

                    I mean, I have the original clip. You can find it on youtube aswell. He says: “Kaya, please, just fucking go back”, does something off camera with his hand and then the dog yelps and goes back on his bed. There’s nothing “inconclusive” about it.

                    In all seriousness, idk what to tell you. If you want to believe he’s innocent, you do you. I think it’s sad that you excuse animal cruelty just because he’s presumably on your side of the political spectrum, but I gotta tell you that you’re not that far away from those people that excuse epstein and his friends because they like trump.

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                    Ah fuck you could’ve just lead with that, then I had remembered who you are and had never bothered to answer lmaoo.

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          You couldn’t give two shits but have no problem lying about animal abuse, what a weird and creepy thing to do. Go outside or something, whatever you’re doing here is incredibly unhealthy

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        11 hours ago

        Very cool, nice to see you are successfully coping with the fact that animal abuse is perfectly fine for you as long as the person has the same political opinion as you do.

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          Shock collars aren’t abusive. Shock collars don’t even work on the type of dog that Kaya is.

          Do you realize how stupid you look to people who have actually watched an Hasan stream before?

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            Shock collars aren’t abusive

            That’s even true. There’s legitimate reasons to use shock collars. However, forcing your dog to stay on the same spot isn’t one of them. That’s animal abuse.

            Do you realize how stupid you look to people who have actually watched an Hasan stream before?

            I genuinely couldn’t give a shit about the opinions of people who actively watch an animal abuser tbh. There’s a live clip of the situation yet you will still sit here and deny it which is absolutely insane, but then again - your choice to be a shitty human I guess.