edit: I swear google has some code that listens to background noise and does this on purpose

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    Getting corrected is how you learn. I often spell words wrong, because English isn’t my first language, but I don’t mind being corrected.

    But when to use “your” and “you’re” is actually fairly easy to remember. “You’re” is short for “you are” and is used when YOU are doing something. “Your” is used when someone else is doing something.

    You’re sleeping vs. your cat is sleeping.

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        5 days ago

        Can’t wrong also be used as an adverb? Where wrongly is used before the verb, and both wrong and wrongly can be used after the verb?

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          No. I mean, there’s certainly a lot of misuse and poor grammar out there that does use it incorrectly, particularly in the US , but it is incorrect to use “wrong” as an adverb.

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              I’m not sure what your point is. That link appears to support what I said. Are you agreeing?

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                It states:

                In informal language wrong can be used as an adverb instead of wrongly, when it means ‘incorrectly’ and comes after a verb or its object:

                • My name was spelt wrong.
                • I’m afraid you guessed wrong.
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                  Ah I see now, I had to expand a section on that page to see that text.

                  Yes, it claims that it is okay for informal speech, and I disagree. For me, it sounds really jarring to hear people drop the “ly”, and every time I hear someone do that, I subconsciously correct them.

                  I do not agree with the premise that commonly made errors are “correct” in informal speech, nor that posts full of grammar errors are okay in an informal setting like social media, and the reason is that kids learn how to spell by being exposed to written text, and the majority of that text these days is social media, meaning that they’re being constantly exposed to errors, so they never learn how to spell, learn proper grammar, or how to professionally communicate.

                  There’s a very fine line, in my mind, between ‘informal’, and ‘incorrect’, and in this case, I think misuse of adverbs falls into the incorrect category.

                  In other words,It’s okay to make mistakes. It’s not okay to consistently misspell words and simply declare it to be correct simply because the writer uses language that way.

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      I don’t disagree but I think you’re missing my point. Minor variations of spelling shouldn’t matter, so long as it’s legible. If someone says dey instead of they, dat instead of that, wader instead of water, why should that be any less correct? I know it’s not exactly an apple to apples comparison but I believe language should be more flexible. So long as it’s understandable, why should it matter? Especially because English has and will continue to evolve in our lifetime. Why do people think in terms of absolutes?

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        Because we have to agree on a standard. Or else we end up with nobody understanding each other.

        Yes, language changes over time, but we all agree on those changes.

        If we can just use what we each think is close enough we could end up with: water -> wader -> vader -> voder -> vodar -> voda.

        An ad sum pojnt no wun kan ondestant vod ani 1 ses.

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          That’s not how language works. Language isn’t some absolute. English for example has many dialects, some of which are difficult for other speakers to understand. I disagree with the notion that we all have to agree with changes being made to our language. Zoomers are using words like skibidi, rizz, and fanumtax. Skibidi may fizzle out or it might be adopted by the masses and become ubiquitous a word as water. My point is that if me and enough people decide your is the correct spelling of you’re than it becomes the correct spelling.

          “And at some point no one can understand what anyone says.” Funny, you’re (yes, I said you’re on purpose) example sentence looks more Germanic than modern English lol.

          In conclusion, let’s not interfere with the natural evolution of language. It’s a beautiful thing to bear witness to.

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            Dialects and slang doesn’t translate to correct spelling and grammar. Sure, sometimes slang gets adopted in the dictionary, and that is when it is added to the standard we all agree on.