• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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    3 hours ago

    Have you ever been on a train? It sucks, a bus 10000% more, buses fuckin suck so much

    Skill issue. Japan, Korea, China all have extremely comfortable and efficient trains. Trains can be quite nice if the government is interested in having good trains instead of making infinitely dollars for the shareholders while spending nothing on maintaince and charging as much as possible.

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      2 hours ago

      Thanks for mentioning Japan and Korea

      https://files.ikt.id.au/y0q8ls.webp

      Japan, South Korea and North Korea would all fit into a space the size of our second smallest state Victoria but that state has a population of 8 million, the combined Korea’s and Japan would be 200 million

      Speaking of large population sizes:

      We are nearly as big as China but with 1.4 billion, if you took their desert which has fuck all trains and transposed that onto Australia we’re actually pretty close in terms of trains and public transport

      But regardless:

      One in Four Japanese Households Do Not Own A Car

      https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-data/h00416/auto-appeal-fades-one-in-four-japanese-households-do-not-own-a-car.html

      Which leaves 3 in 4 who do own a car, so much for skill issue right :)

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        I almost thought you were American given your “rail doesn’t work, look how big our country is” BS argument. I guess it works for Australia too, though. Funnily enough your own map shows how Australia is actually perfectly siuted for extensive rail infrastructure connecting most of the metropolitan regions with each other.

        Adelade-Melbourne-Sydney-Brisbane covers most of Australia’s population and is a model case for an HSR corridor, certainly also has the population to support one as well. Add to that a Dutch style multimodal urban model and Australia could be on par with the rest of the developed world infrastructure wise. Perth and Darwin are self contained urban islands anyway, too far for attractive rail but also road connection

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        if you took their desert which has fuck all trains

        They run hundreds of trains a day between population centers in that desert, I took them to get to Kazakhstan and back.

        skill issue

        The skill issue is being able to build efficient, comfortable, cheap trains, which Japan has the first 2, but they could be cheaper.

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          I mean that’s fine but that doesn’t answer my original point when 3/4th’s of people are using cars to get around, this public transport paradise is limited to inner city and highly dense locations, and even then 50%+ of people are still using cars

          Doesn’t scream public transport is a winner

          I also much prefer driving in my car listening to music and not having little shits on the train making a racket and running around and my car is more comfortable and when I want to go down to GYG at 11pm for a cheeky fries run I’m not standing out in the dark and cold in my suburb (not the nicest) waiting for a bus to turn up and then the same thing on my way back, that would be the pits

          Maybe this works in a big urban centre but the whole world is not a big urban centre