• IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
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    7 hours ago

    So you’ve transferred the required hand move from the right hand to the left, and added extra required keystrokes to accomplish the same task. I don’t see how that isn’t worse.

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      7 hours ago

      Moving hands is an extremely time-consuming task when you’re typing 60+ words per minute. Couple of keystrokes are much much faster than relocating your hand twice.

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      7 hours ago

      No, it’s a key stroke, not hand move. I don’t have to reposition my hand to hit ESC. You do have to reposition your hand to use arrow keys.

      Also, you usually move the cursor by more than just one character. It’s one extra keystroke to reposition the cursor, not to move it by one char. You have shortcuts to jump to end of file, specific line, end of line or even create and jump to bookmarks. All this with just standard keys, without repositioning your hands to use the mouse or arrow keys.

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        6 hours ago

        Your keyboard must be slightly different than the one I have in front of me right now. Home row to esc and home row to arrows is the same distance on mine.

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          6 hours ago

          First, as I said, I remapped ESC to TAB key. Tab is very close.

          Second, it’s different to hit ESC ones than to use arrows keys to move around. To go back to home row after using arrow keys I have to feel around the keys trying to find “j” again. Or look at keyboard. I don’t have to do that after hitting ESC once.

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            6 hours ago

            I’m not bothering to talk about non default layouts. Remapping is a separate discussion, since I could just as easily say it’s better to remap wasd to the arrow function and have the FN key toggle it, since a much higher number of people already have that navigation method trained into muscle memory. This is a preference game no matter what, but it becomes an especially pointless discussion if you base it on custom layouts.

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              2 hours ago

              Custom layout was only part of my answer. Most vim users don’t use custom layouts and second point still holds.

              I could just as easily say it’s better to remap wasd to the arrow function and have the FN key toggle it,

              Great idea. It would give you like 5% of what vim offers but 5% is better than 0%.

              much higher number of people already have that navigation method trained into muscle memory

              All vim users have hjkl trained into muscle memory. No one is saying that it’s automatically better. vim has a learning curve. When you know how to use it it’s simply better than traditional editors.