• eleijeep@piefed.social
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    17 hours ago

    Oh so you’re telling me that there’s some kind of value provided by paying a human to do a job instead of automating it? You should write an academic paper about this.

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    Not defending Waymo, but you’re supposed to open the trunk either using the button on the touch screen in the car, or the button in the app. They tell you do do this in the app. If you open it this way when getting in, it’ll automatically open at your destination too.

    As far as I know, the button on the back of the car itself isn’t integrated with their computer system for whatever reason.

    Also keep the passenger door open until you’ve got everything. I do the same thing with taxis and Ubers too.

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      As far as I know, the button on the back of the car itself isn’t integrated with their computer system for whatever reason.

      Whose fault is that…?

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        Probably a design issue where they couldn’t hook into one of the car’s systems? I’m not sure.

        Their current cars are just temporary anyways. Jaguar doesn’t even make them any more - they stopped producing the model that Waymo uses at the end of 2024.

        They’re currently partnering with Zeekr to build a brand new one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waymo_Ojai

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          If they can literally steer and accelerate the car with a computer, they could surely detect if a door or latch was opened at any point.

          Hobbyists have been doing it for cheap using home assistant and cheap sensors, I’m sure a company valued at 100+ Billion could too.

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            3 hours ago

            That’s what I thought too. I’m not sure why it’s not the case.

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          They could have run a whole ass extra wire to the trunk release button input if they wanted to, they just didn’t want to.

          But I like how friend-shaped that Zeekr is.

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            6 hours ago

            LOL extra wire.

            They already should have a normal controller there… button state, lock state, lid angle, a motor if it’s the luxury config…

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              4 hours ago

              Well yes, but integrating that is hard and would require talking to Jaguar. Waymo could have pulled a single wire if they wanted to.

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                2 hours ago

                but integrating that is hard

                No harder than all the other points where Waymo IT needs to talk with car IT.

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                  You’d think so… buuuut… sometimes the people problem is greater than the technical ones.

                  I can foresee the trunk release talking to a controller with one-time-programmable ROM. I can see the trunk release button being activated or deactivated by messages from the body control module. I can imagine the controller reporting trunk open/closed based on its latch, but not having a way to report to the BCM if the button was -pushed- rather than the lock/latch actuated.

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    1 day ago

    Okay, that would be shitty but no empathy for the guy using fucking Waymo.