Remembering to look for and ignore folks with that telltale indicator has made the fediverse so much more enjoyable.

  • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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    13 hours ago

    a purity test that about some politicians policy on benefits for homeless people not being enough

    So is this the “LA LA LA” you yell while plugging your ears to the actual tests ‘tankies’ apply to politicians usually having to do with imperialism and genocide?

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      5 hours ago

      I mean I expected this when I decided to engage with a .ml but still, it’s like you’re reading a completely different comment from the one I wrote.

      So against my better judgement I will try to engage you in good faith for a bit longer:

      I specified tankies and purity test leftists as different entities for a reason. Tankies do often make good points about western imperialism, the problem (and what makes them tankies) is there blind support for anyone and anything that opposes western imperialism, no matter how bad they are, which is usually support for russian/Chinese imperialism/authoritarian regimes.

      Then the purity testers are the ones who will just pointlessly infight about semantics in theory. Like for a real life example, I got purity tested earlier this year for saying I think there’s a difference between systemic racism and an individual act of racism, and anyone can be the victim of an individual act of racism. And apparently that makes me as bad as the KKK.

      So in summary I’m happy to talk to you guys about the how bad the effects of western imperialism is and how we to actively fight against it, so long as you don’t claim Russia and China are the good guys, in spite of all the evil shit they do, simply because they are a force that isn’t western.

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        Tankies do often make good points about western imperialism, the problem (and what makes them tankies) is there blind support for anyone and anything that opposes western imperialism, no matter how bad they are, which is usually support for russian/Chinese imperialism/authoritarian regimes.

        This is incorrect, though. Marxists do not have blind support for China, Russia, etc, we disagree with the mainstream western appraisals of these countries. Further, support for Russia is strategic, support for China is because they are an actual socialist country.

        If you say we make good points on western imperialism, then you should know that we take a scientific approach to analyzing imperialism, and that this is why our analysis is sound. We don’t have a vibes-based approach to imperialism, which is why we don’t agree to your accusations of, say, Chinese imperialism.

        I think it would be a great idea for you to actually give what we say a listen, rather than selectively agreeing with us on what you already believe.

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          I was just going to say, I’ve been on Lemmy for like 6 months and I’ve literally never seen a .ml user blindly support China or Russia.

          On the other hand, I’ve seen tons of non-.ml users blindly hate those countries.