• heartSagan5@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    He skipped over LUSERnet and LimeWire, which was before 2007. Usenet was a big sharing community too before 2007.

    Piracy has always been around. It’s the underhand method of getting what someone wants. Empires didn’t mint coins because it was fun, but they needed to identify forgeries. Also, scales were used (and people would use lead) to trick it instead of coin.

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      2 months ago

      I don’t mean to draw attention to it but Usenet never went away, it’s still the best place to find a lot of interesting articles in my opinion.

  • Jay@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    Anyone who had a dual cassette deck back in the 80’s didn’t have much issue copying music or game cassettes. Floppy disks were easy to copy too.

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      2 months ago

      Let’s not forget those fuckin’ DJs that talked during a song and forced one to wait again for that track to be played —hoping they wouldn’t stroke their persona to the silent, imagined fan base… but they always did. 🤌🏼

  • whereitsat@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    bad history.

    even in 2007, piracy was a niche thing. your lame cousin probably didn’t download from demonoid or the pirate bay. more people did then than now but it wasn’t substantial.

    there was still a reason to pirate even with netflix–there was a ton of content not available on DVD at that time.

    at least 10 years ago all the good private torrent sites became severely restricted, some even entirely closing the doors for new members.

    not sure where this piracy resurgence is going on, but it’s not on the good sites.

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      2 months ago

      Yeah, Napster was released in 1999 and was huge. Everyone in college in the early 00s was using file sharing networks to download stuff. It wasn’t everyone but it was pretty big.

      The real answer is that many people in this thread are personally pirating less because they are old; when you have the money, it’s often just faster and easier to pay, and for games there are some genuine advantages to eg. owning a game on Steam so you can use cloud saves. Most piracy has always been teenagers and college students, since they often can’t buy the stuff they want.

      This is the same reason why, in the late 90’s and early 00s, anime piracy in particular was huge - distribution barely existed for most shows and when it did it was wildly overpriced.

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      2 months ago

      I don’t think its fair to say piracy was niche in the early 2000s either though, everyone had napster or limewire/frostwire.

      And netflix wasn’t originally streaming only, they started out as online DVD rentals which exploded and then added streaming as a second offering (only discontinuing DVD rentals in 2023).

      The modern piracy resurgence is certainly not torrents, though for the power users it is (or usenet), its online streaming sites like whatever the equivalent of 123movies is these days

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    2 months ago

    Jesus Christ, these kids really think nothing existed before widespread high speed internet adoption eh?

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      2 months ago

      Yeah I was buying ripped, printed and mass produced pirated games from the early 90s.

      And selling VHS with movies. Piracy is as old as time.

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      2 months ago

      I was going to say, 2007 as the start date? lol.

      I was downloading games off Home of the Underdogs in the 90s, and by the late 90s downloading anime off of file sharing had started to get big.

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    2 months ago

    I remember paying $30 USD for a DVD with 3-4 episodes at most of an anime series. 26 episode Cowboy Bebop season? ~$120 USD.

    Sure I downloaded that episode of Excel Saga once (❤️). It was 320x240 and took more than a day on my 56k dialup.

    At some point I remember going on ebay and buying the entirety of Witch Hunter Robin (which at the time, I chose over Naruto that had just started airing as well, this would turn out to be an important tone setting point in my life …) and getting it for ~$20 USD. Basically just the cost of someone else to download it and burn it to CD for me. Did the same thing with Wolf’s Rain.

    Good memories. Of the anime. This shit always sucked.

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    2 months ago

    While VALVe somehow made piracy obsolete for video games then after that they decide to make gaming on linux easier jumpstart the pc handheld market AND making one of the best first party controllers

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    2 months ago

    Netflix didn’t have a choice but to get into production and producers were going to see their money anyways and get into streaming. There was only one way forward that was sensible for both groups.

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    2 months ago

    In my case, i went back to physical media. Bought a blhray player and now my boyfriend and I are gradually expanding our movie library when we feel like it. Some movies and shows don’t exist on dvd/bluray, but that’s okay. I think there is something healthy about not having access to absolutely everything you want at all times. Besides, for me, there is also something satisfying in having ti get up from the couch and change discs and so on. I missed the physical aspect of watching movies and remember how much streaming services fried my fucking brain while i still used them.

    It was to the point where you barely register wtf you are watching because everything on streaming services is about the next thing.

    Movies werent movies on streaming services, but content and I heard people starting to refer to movies and shows as content at some point and was like “this is fucked”.

    Content. Content to fill the void. Not to experience or educate, enlighten or provoke your senses and morality. Just content to distract you.

    Ew.

    I dont mimd piracy, but i prefer physical media. I no longer wish to follow technollgical advancements. I want to go back and stay at a place where there was some level of conscious and physical effort to watch a movie. That way you remember it better, you slow down and you appreciate the piece of art in front of you rather than seeing it as content.

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        2 months ago

        I’ll consider it! I want Pluto (2023) on dvd or bluray, but it is on lock on netflix and i simply refuse to subscribe to that shit. I have a soft spot for Naoki Uwasaki. He’s one of the only mangaka living today, who manages to tell stories that I like.

        But yeah, i dont know how piracy deals with language and subtitle options in today’s landscape. Because I prefer to have options and I’m not sure I could get a pirated dvd version where i can switch language and/or subtitles while watching.

        But thank you for the the tip, friend! I have starred your comment so i can find it if/when i look into it. 🤗❤️

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          2 months ago

          It would be easiest to get a complete ISO file and just burn that to a DVD of course, but barely anyone is dealing in ISOs these days, if they even exist at all. You can take regular MKV or MP4 files and structure them into a DVD format with DVD Styler.

          For a lot of anime at least, look for releases tagged Dual-Audio or Multi-Audio and find the one with the dubs you want. Subtitle tracks are a crapshoot, because they’re so small and easy to edit, so you have to look at descriptions to figure out which ones are included and from which sources (official, fansub). This is less of an issue for non-anime, you’ll usually get every sub track from the original source.

          You might have to use Handbrake or ffmpeg to get your MKV source files in a format that DVD Styler accepts. (I saw it doesn’t list MKV support, but it is just a container format for all the things it does list.)

  • Echedelle (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    never paid for netflix or other services, some people never had the money for it and continued buying some films (DVDs were still sold until 2019 pretty widely here) or renting a film every X time and pirating others until the first became impossible and piracy was the only thing.

    then the streaming services go to shit with subscription fees, not getting all the content and such, and you see people who showed off being able to pay for those services before or still keep one struggling to get content and slightly becoming pirates again.

    this is the other side of the situation. you warned them, they trusted the corpos, and corpos gave them shit.