• irmoz@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Where did I compromise on my beliefs?

    Having a “fun” conversation with a nazi

    I mean did you see what I said about literally explicitly being okay with being friends with a murderer. If you’re actually curious about why I think like that: I think people are much more multifaceted than most people give credit for. They’re molded by their environment, habits they fall into. I think behaviors and beliefs are closer to habits, or sometimes addictions, to ways of thinking than they are fixed elements of a “personality” or “identity”. I think there are probably many killers who were genuinely sweet, and kind, and caring, to their friends and family- and when they’re like that, that’s just as much them as when they’re doing genuinely evil things. I can see the human while also not enabling the evil.

    Well that’s all very sweet, how nice of you to be so kind to murderers.

    But whatever, I just don’t care - you are not beholden to be kind to someone just because they are multifaceted and complete humans. Humans can be evil, and if even one of those “facets” is murdering or a desire for genocide, I have every right to disagree with that. I do not owe anyone my time, or my patience.

    And so fucking what if they’re molded by their environment and experiences? Why should I give even the slightest shit if the end result of the molding process was a FUCKING NAZI? I’ve had bad experiences with ethnic minorities and didn’t blame it on their heritage or skin colour. Why should I let them off the hook?

    Yea I agree their sense of humor is often really bad. “N-word == funny” type stuff. But there might be some some actually funny ones.

    Funny if you’re racist. And again, I do not have to wade through a mile of shit and corpses just because there might be a slice of cake at the end. I am allowed to say “no, fuck off”.

    Also the worst thing is how they always want to bring everything back to the jews. Like I can think a movie is bad without wanting to hear a 10 minute rant about how the jews control Hollywood.

    Yet another reason not to talk to them outside of berating them.

    Where did I say that?

    Like I already said: when you said you’d prefer a “fun” nazi to someone else “boring”, and implied by you taking issue with me saying you should either argue or leave. This implies you’d prefer to stay and not argue. And if you’re not arguing with them or leaving, what are you doing? Standing completely still with no words or body language of your own? No, you’re engaging in the conversation.