• FfaerieOxide@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    Copyright Mig-Switch 2024 - A product of Mig Switch, developed and produced in the Russian Federation

    You’ll understand if I don’t contribute to their tax base for now.

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      10 months ago

      I have the feeling it’s just a “cover my ass” situation, in this way when they receive legal requests they can redirect them to the trash can

      While it’s possible that it’s developed in Russia because there are so many smart devs and engineers, it would be stupid to actually make the product in a country without the supply chain and they would need to smuggle everything from abroad and back for shipping to the rest of the world. And getting payments from the distributors

      IMHO it’s actually made in an unnamed Chinese factory and in Russia there’s just a shell company (if at all)

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      This is just a theory/rumor (and partially a cope) but some people have floated the idea that this might not even be produced in Russia, and the overbearing Russian/Soviet symbolism is to throw off Nintendo and hide where it’s really being produced.

      Afaik there’s no evidence to substantiate this, but if it were to be true, that would be hilarious.

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      10 months ago

      Dude wtf. Russians citizen are not equal to Russian government. They are just people.

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        Russians citizen are not equal to Russian government. They are just people.

        I know. I love Russians. I wish Oleg Strizhenov, Bradshaw and Aleksandr Dulerayn, Anna Melikian, and the gals from Pussy Riot all the best. May their government cease being made up of Mafiya members The West recognized in the early 90s as soon as possible.

        I objected to the device being produced in (and hence paying taxes to) The Russian Federation, not being made by Russians.

        I love Russians.

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          You sure don’t support them enough for how much you speak of how you love them.

          Or maybe you mean you love , like love, them?

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              If the shoe fits…

              But yes, really, you are doing a lot of grandstanding on how you love Russians, apparently so much that you’d leave them to rot just because they have to interact with their own society in order to subsist.

              Just like, you know, everyone else.

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          I don’t know, I’m American, I can’t really eat if I don’t indirectly pay money to the largest neo-imperialist empire in the world (who is currently funding a genocide btw).

          There is no ethical consumption. You either consume unethically or you die.

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            I can’t really eat if I don’t indirectly pay money to the largest neo-imperialist empire in the world

            You could. Food is there for stealing. Land is there for growing on. People might shoot at you for trying, but you could.

            There is no ethical consumption.

            I’m pretty sure that phrase isn’t actually a call to apathy.

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              You could. Food is there for stealing. Land is there for growing on. People might shoot at you for trying, but you could.

              I assume you’re speaking in jest?

              There is no ethical consumption.

              I’m pretty sure that phrase isn’t actually a call to apathy.

              Not attempting to make a call to apathy. On the contrary, I just reject the idea that what you buy from who is leading to any material improvement in society. I think there are much better ways to push for positive change. Like sure, don’t buy the thing, but don’t fool yourself into thinking you’ve made a difference. Helping your community/mutual-aid, direct action, these are the sorts of things that I think go a lot further towards resulting in positive material changes.

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          10 months ago

          Every government is partially founded by taxes, are you suggesting we should avoid economical transactions with every citizen of a state you disapprove? Or is it just a Russian thing?

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            are you suggesting we should avoid economical transactions with every citizen of a state you disapprove?

            Over the table, yes I am.

            I would like to provide as little funding toward the expansion of territory in which transitioning gender presentation is a crime as possible.

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              10 months ago

              I don’t disagree with that principle. I disagree with the idea that “buy something from a company that will eventually pay some taxes to a country” can be considered “provide funding” to that country government.

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                You don’t think money going to a country …is money …which goes to that country?

                If I bought something for €40 off some guy who pays their nation 2.5% tax on the transaction is that €1 paid not a Euro the nation would not have had I declined to make the purchase?

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                  Come on, you understand what I mean. I’m just saying that I personally feel wrong to drow the line at that when looking for boycotting criteria.

                  I despise lots of government and I refuse to support, partake and work in anything involved directly with such government or strongly affiliated company. I think it’s important to remember than people are not their government and that especially citizens of bad government need to see this kind of comprehension.

                  It’s ok if you disagree, it’s a complicated matter. Noone know the one true truth.

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            That sounds like a boycott which is absolutely a thing. Choosing how to spend your money as a representative from of who you support is nothing new.

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              One thing is boycotting a company because you don’t support how it operates or their moral position. Another thing is boycotting a company just for the sole fact that it’s based in a country that makes political decision you disagree with. It’s just geography, not a solid criteria for boycotting something IMHO.

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                Uh no. It’s helping to support the country as well. It puts pressure on individuals and corporations to also push their local/state government to adjust their policy as well.

                If you don’t want to support slavery you can absolutely choose to not buy from countries that use slave labor at parts of the supply chain.

                Suggesting that it’s just a location based boycott is disingenuous to the conversation of it being about countries that you as a buyer are supporting. I’m not saying I don’t buy products from people who live in swamps or wetlands, but from a country that is engaged in politcal issues that are quite major in scope.

                If you want to excuse it away and embrace that opinion, that it’s fine cause it just is a location, fine. Your desire to buy is able to let you ignore the moral dissonance; and it’s what humans do best, ignoring reality because they want something; but, it doesn’t make you any less in the minority on this.

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                  I was elaborating my answer, but honestly I don’t think you deserve more of my time. You are way to aggressive and judgmental.

                  I don’t think to be right, and I honestly don’t have any strong opinion on a matter like this. I was just finding interesting to discuss about a position that I was finding too extreme.

                  Have a nice day.

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              Agree to disagree, I suppose. You will ends up condamning people for their government decision, which sounds problematic to me (especially considering the low agency they could have in such decisionmaking).

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      Nintendo has a tendency to be a-holes to streamers who acknowledge they are playing pirated or modded games on their consoles. It is why you tend to want to follow yahoo anime rules even if you are obviously emulating a SNES.

      But also… what is even the point of this? With the 3ds it sort of made sense since you really had no other handheld options. These days, portable gaming devices are a dime a dozen and the vast majority of the “modern” ones outperform the switch anyway. So people who are planning to pirate nintendo games already know they are 100-200 USD away from a much better experience that can ALSO pirate plenty of other platforms (and has Steam which gets rid of the nintendo tax for those who buy games). Which, factoring in the cost of the flash cart (looks like 59 USD from their US store with maybe 7 bucks of shipping?), isn’t even that much.

      And for people who want to play it on their TV/PC? It is even easier to outperform the switch.

      I guess there are “kids” for whom their switch is their primary and only console. But it has mostly slotted itself into the role as “the second console that everyone has” with a PS4/5 or XBOX whatever as the “primary” for non-Nintendo games. And the people who are going to be buying this cart likely aren’t 12 year old kids talking to their parents about why this random sketchy site needs credit card info…

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        The point is for people to have digital backups their roms to play legally and to play roms on native hardware that will guarantee smooth playing. The cost is also a factor since the switch is ending very soon; a used switch oled, a cart with 7 years worth of “free” games would <=$300. Pretty cheap if one wants to start gaming without breaking the bank.

        Adding on to say, yes the Steam Deck is cheaper and better when getting one at the new discount prices. It all depends on preference for emulation or running on original software. And most here would agree that Steam deck with emulation is preferred.

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          Why would you think SD with emulation is preferred when a lot of the emulated games have frame rate and stuttering issues on it? A switch with flash cart would play the games perfectly.

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            A switch with flash cart would play the games perfectly.

            You mean, the same as the switch does normally, which in most of those same games, is not particularly well, because the switch is super low power.

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    Given they can’t seem to have a loader, I know they have to somehow trigger the Switch to know there’s another game - but can you imagine having to do that several times to cycle to the game you want? The cost needed to repair the cartridge slot after too many pushes is definitely going to outweigh having just bought a Steam Deck and emulated the Switch instead.

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        Ugh… yeah… guess it’s cheaper than chipping it. I do wonder how quickly the big N will ban people all using the same game ID.

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            Maybe if you use the widely circulated ones.

            I can imagine plenty of people will start(have been) dumping rental carts from ie. the library.

            If those dumps loaded onto the mig are indistinguishable from the original and Nintendo starts banning those, they risk banning a lot of other legitimate players who also rented and played on those carts.

            Correct me if I’m wrong, but it didn’t use to be an issue to Nintendo because you had to install the xci and that was detectable. Now you can run the game off the cart directly.

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              The MIG uses its own IDs from what I understand, and if they’re invalid (randomly generated) or used by others (not random and used by other MIG users) Nintendo will know, autodetect, and ban you

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                Ah okay so I guess the mig can’t spoof ids. Then in any case it’s probably only a matter of time the console gets banned if it ever reaches the internet, which is worse than modding because now you have no way of updating the firmware for future games.

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                  To be fair, once your console gets banned you can get the firm upgrades pretty much freely from the Archives and won’t have to ever worry about any kind of “desync” that could Alert the Mothership.