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    1 year ago

    And there is still a lot of people, especially on lemmy, basically worshipping China and other communist countries.

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      Capitalists put you in jail for marijuana. They used to put you in jail for alcohol. Hell, child labor is used in capitalist countries. China honestly is an authoritarian mixed economy. But perhaps, even in the USA, authoritarism is preferred.

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        1 year ago

        I’m not trying to defend America but they don’t put you in jail or fine you for using a VPN (yet).

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        The difference between democracy and fascism is that the laws are quickly changing due to public opinion in America, but that does not happen in China.

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          People have been smoking Marijuana since the 60’s and it’s still a federally illegal drug at the level of heroine. Laws don’t change quickly in the US at all.

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    Good luck being a developer or do technical support without GitHub, Google, Reddit (Lemmy?) or stackexchange

    Or market your product without the possibility of accessing any western social network

    If you ever notice, all apps developed in china are similar. Ads at start, invasive tracking using dummy images dropped in /pictures, unnecessary permissions like phone and IMEI, and so on. They literally don’t have a way to compare to something else. There’s the Baidu SDK, Tencent SDK, aliyun SDK and they are using bad coding practices because they’re doing that in isolation

    They’re shooting in their feet

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      If you ever notice, all apps developed in china are similar. Ads at start, invasive tracking using dummy images dropped in /pictures, unnecessary permissions like phone and IMEI, and so on. They literally don’t have a way to compare to something else. There’s the Baidu SDK, Tencent SDK, aliyun SDK and they are using bad coding practices because they’re doing that in isolation

      jesse-wtf

      What kind of shitty apps are you installing? Some of the most popular mobile games in the world are Chinese (Genshin, Honkai, Azurlane, Ark Knights, etc) and none of them do any of this shit.

      I went to China recently with a buddy and I loaded a ton of China specific apps onto our phones. Mine was a Samsung and his was an iPhone. Between WeChat, Alipay, Taobao, Amap, DiDi, Dianping, the China Customs Service app and a bunch of other store and region specific apps, literally none of them did anything you described. I also bought a Xiaomi phone in China and migrated all my data over, so I can confirm that these apps don’t do anything like that even on a Chinese phone (which, btw, is way more strict with permissions than my Samsung, down to telling me each and every time google maps requested my location).

      In addition to that, I have a bunch of apps for stuff from Chinese companies on my phone like Mijia, Fiio, Huawei, Moondrop, etc and none of them do this shit either.

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        WeChat, taobao, alipay, amap they all do this. Go to watch /pictures on your android with a file manager. You will notice some folders called .gs0 .gs3 and so on.

        Inside there are dummy images with tracking data. They do like this because apps on Android don’t need an extra permission to drop “images” on /pictures

        Those folders are not shown by default because normal file managers on Android hide any file with the name that starts with a dot.

        And those dummy images aren’t shown in photo galleries also because of another file that’s dropped in those folders, .nomedia

        You also never saw the ads on the taobao splash screen??? Did you ever opened that app? Not to mention that phone permission is mandatory to use that app for some reason. (And can’t do any search until you register your phone number with SMS verification)

        Other Chinese apps with ads on the splash screen is Huawei store, mijia, amap

        And the Chinese customs app also requires an insane amount of permissions, never gave my European phone number, but a week after entering the country I got a phone call from +8621962110 - who gave them the number? (Don’t know what that call was about because answering a phone call in roaming is 2 euro per minute, but from some search on Baidu it looks like it’s some robocall from the Chinese police)

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Third party scraped reports citing a crypto shill site’s reporting on a blurry and redacted document from China’s equivalent of Facebook is how I get all my accurate and true news about things that really happened.

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      It’s good to show genuine scepticism to what you read, but I can’t help but think yours is not particularly honest.

      It is extremely clear via auditing the trail of this report that the ‘crypto shill site’ is negligible to the story. You would have had to go back one step in the chain, stick your fingers in your ears, then ignore everything else from that point onwards to think Coin Telegraph was actually relevant to the reporting of this story.

      True or not, here you can find a clear summary, along with screenshots stamped with the seal of the Chengde PD. These screenshots, contrary to your claim, are not at all blurry, and have minimal redaction (to protect the person’s privacy).

      Given fairly credible and detailed screenshots of a police report, numerous reporting across a number of different websites in both Chinese and English, even a reported GitHub profile of the person in question, I think there’s sufficient evidence to believe this is likely a true story.

      But you do you.

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        First of all, if there is a better source then OP should post the better source to begin with. Everyone should be skeptical when presented with a second hand summary of something going through two weak sources.

        As for the original source, it’s an NED front based in the US so as far as I’m concerned it can be dismissed with no further consideration.

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            Inventing conspiracy theorists was the most intelligent thing the US state department ever did.

            Pointing out the CIA does active psychological operations on it’s own population is seen as crazy and unbelievable by the average person in the West.

            For the credulous, I ask this. How many times has Kim Jong Un been reported dead now in the media? Do you really think that was just an accident every single time, or do you think someone might have an agenda?

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              Hmm… To debate with a conspiracy theorist or not… Such a difficult choice.

              You know what, let me try something different…

              You win this debate! I concede! Although I am not an American and don’t live in America, I am a stooge of the American imperialists! And yes, like the other 8.1 billion people on the planet (sans you, of course), I live on stolen land! Have mercy!