• SmoothSurfer@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Years of experience speaking:

    • Make it work
    • Make it right
    • Make it fast

    If your end results are following this pattern, no one gives a fuck how you do

  • VanillaGorilla@kbin.social
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    With my stakeholders TDD is nearly impossible. I mean it’s possible, but doesn’t make sense as they shuffle their specifications every other day. I implement, they decide they wanted something different, I refactor, they don’t like it, I refactor, they accept, I write tests.

    Please send help

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    1 year ago

    Works great when you know what your doing before you start. That never actually happens in real life though.

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      1 year ago

      And often if you box yourself into an API before you start implementing, it comes out worse.

      I always learn a lot about the problem space once I start coding, and use that knowledge to refine the API of my system as I work.

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    It’s criminally underutilized. Of course, one reason is that it’s hard to TDD a moving target. Since it’s also hard to get people to actually fucking specify things in a lot of real world cases, it’s just one more thing you ought to do, but aren’t allowed to.

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      I think you have a point with the moving target, but also I believe that development should pretty much always be a moving target. You should be refactoring your domain based on new experiences and new knowledge all the time. So, personally, I find integration tests much more useful, because they test the input and output of a system, rather than how it’s implemented. I can change my domain without having to modify my tests and that makes changes to the domain much simpler.

      That being said, I also definitely recognize the advantages of TDD, I just don’t think it’s a silver bullet; there’s good projects for it and bad ones